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Beauty, Lust, & Options

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Read an article in Relevant entitled, “Beauty Vs. Sexuality” and it has my mind churning. I like the way this guy thinks, but I bet there’s some people who will line up to shoot some holes in his theory.

Hugo Schwyzer writes,

 In many discussions about modesty and the male gaze, someone quotes the famous line from Job: “I made a covenant with my eyes not to look lustfully at a girl” (Job 31:1). Note the pesky adverb. If men can’t look at women without sexual longing, isn’t the “lustfully” redundant? Perhaps Scripture isn’t telling men not to look, it’s reminding men how to look. The problem of lust is that it’s selfish; when we lust we appropriate for ourselves what isn’t ours to take and, all too often, lose sight of the humanity of the person for whom we’re lusting. The implication in Job, however, is that men can “look” without lusting. The covenant isn’t to avoid looking, or even delighting in what is seen; the covenant is to look while stopping short of sexual objectification. If we believe men can’t separate these things, we sell them—and we sell the reality of grace—woefully short.

Because we refuse to take seriously men’s ability to not lust in the presence of loveliness, we shame the great many women who—whatever their other fabulous qualities—also want to be affirmed for their beauty. If every man is “fighting a battle” against lust, and if few men are capable of distinguishing appreciation for beauty from carnal longing, then every woman who dresses to be validated becomes a traitor to the cause of spiritual purity. The end result is devastating for too many. Lauren Lankford Dubinsky, founder of the Good Women Project, wrote in an email that “women are victimized by the soul-crushing weight of having your motives (or even personal worth) judged incorrectly on the basis of something as simple as an article of clothing. A huge percentage of women within the Church are silently battling eating disorders, self-harm, pornography addiction and depression—all stemming from misplaced shame, a shame they feel because fellow Christians have equated their beauty with intentional malice or deliberate seductiveness toward men.”

To put it another way, we shame men by insisting they’re fundamentally weak, constantly vulnerable to being overwhelmed by sexual impulses. We shame women for not being better stewards of that supposed weakness. That shame doesn’t just lead to unhealthy sexual relationships (including between husbands and wives); it leaves too many men feeling like potential predators and too many women feeling as if they’re vain, shallow temptresses.

I really loved when he wrote, “we refuse to take seriously men’s ability to not lust in the presence of loveliness.” That’s good stuff.

Would love to hear your thoughts. Do we too quickly rely on shame (towards both men and women) in the battle of lust?

Monitoring Modesty

I stumbled upon an interesting survey the other day called The Modesty Survey. The website describes it as an exciting, anonymous discussion between Christian guys and girls who care about modesty.”

Apparently hundreds of Christian girls contributed to the 148-question survey and over 1,600 Christian guys submitted 150,000+ answers, including 25,000 text responses.

Turns out you ladies aren’t allowed to wear miniskirts or halter-tops, but you can get away with decorative stitching on your pockets.

I think I get the point of this… but I do have one bone to pick. It seems a bit one sided. It communicates that modesty is something which pertains to only girls and immodesty is something that guys get to define. It almost seems to allow men to blame their “lustful minds” on women and their “immodest” dress instead of challenging them to “renew their mind.”

I may totally regret opening this can of worms but I think this is an important conversation.

What responsibility do you think women have when it comes to what they wear? Is it possible for us to get to legalistic about this?

Is This All Men Think About?

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I guess it would be an understatement to say men tend to think about sex more than women. But, I also think it’s an overstatement to say it’s all men think about.

My friend, Anne Jackson wrote a post on her blog last week entitled “My Thoughts On Boobies” which got quite a bit of discussion going around the blogosphere. I must admit that I have been thinking about it a lot since last week (the post, not boobies).

Anne’s challenge was an important one. She was simply saying women should be mindful of what they wear knowing that men are so visually stimulated. My question is this: What responsibility do the men own in all of this? Surely guys we can’t play the “We just can’t help it.” card or the “That’s the way God designed us.” card. Or my favorite lame excuse, “You can look at the menu, you just can’t order.”

So here are my thoughts to get us started. I believe it is true…

1) A man will always notice an attractive woman.

2) After noticing, a man has a choice. He can either choose to continue to “notice” the attractive woman which will lead to fantasy or he can choose to avert his mind and his eyes to something else (often referred to as bouncing).

So what do you guys think? Is this something that men and women both need to own?

chime in,

Pete