My Problem Isn’t With Tiger, the Media, or His Sponsors
Like many of you I’ve been unable to escape the constant media attention given to the Tiger Woods scandal. Does it seem ironic to anyone else that the media is giving Tiger such a hard time for living out the lifestyle they portray on almost every single television show they air?
But to be honest, my problem isn’t with the media outlets. They’re just doing what they do. Feeding ratings.
My problem isn’t with the sponsors who are either ditching Tiger or standing beside him. They’re just doing what they do. Making money.
My problem is with the millions of Christians (including myself) who have jumped right in and used this as an opportunity to throw stones.
I thought my friend, Mike Foster, wrote an absolutely amazing blog post on this topic a couple days ago. I couldn’t agree more with his suggestions (#3 alone I will never forget).
As People of the Second Chance, here are a few of my suggestions:
1. You have so many words that you can share in a day. Decide whether they will be about blessing or cursing someone.
2. When someone is caught in a scandal, I visualize two buckets that I can fill. I can add to the “Shame Bucket” or the “Second Chance Bucket.” Sometimes my first/easy/fun/human nature response is to fill the “Shame Bucket” so I have to work harder not to do that.
3. For all you online peeps…write your articles, blogs, tweets, and comments as if the person in crisis (and their family) were reading it. Why? Because they do! And the jokes, snarky comments, sloppy facts and flippant remarks hurt people. Instead, devote your computer keyboard to the restoration of people.
4. Refuse to participate in the gossip session around the water cooler. Or better yet, jump in and turn the conversation towards grace and second chances. BTW, just plan on being called a “buzz kill” and not invited back to any more social functions.
5. Realize we are either part of the judgment problem or the grace solution. But we can’t be both. So choose wisely.
What are your thoughts?
54 Comments:
I am so glad you brought this up Pete. Because every single word you said was so true. Who are we to judge? I very much do not agree with what Tiger did, but isn’t God’s grace all about second chances? And I think Tiger is owed that. Does that mean he doesn’t have a lot of stuff to work through? No. But everyone is entitled to the same grace and mercy that is so freely given to us. I pray that God will work HUGE in Tiger’s life during this time and bring forth a lot of restoration for him and his family. He needs our prayers, not our condemnation right now!!
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Lauren Kelly
7:26 am
I stand guilty on this, and was called out on #3. Why do I (we) do this? Throw stones? Does it make us feel better that they are caught – and we’re not? What is it about kicking someone when they’re down that make us somehow righteous? I apologize to Tiger and his family and refuse to jump on the wagon of judgment again.
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Pete Wilson Reply:
December 18th, 2009 at 7:31 am
I think you hit the nail on the head. It does make us feel better about ourselves, if even for just a moment.
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Vicki
7:29 am
Mike is totally right.
My son and I were talking about it this morning. I know people who have told their kids they can’t “root” for Tiger anymore because he isn’t a person they should look up to.
Well, yes and no.
They should still support (hope for him, love him) him because one day…we could be in a similar situation of judgment.
We really should only “look up” to JC and that should be the real lesson here, when we put all of our hope, faith and “hero” status in another human…we WILL be let down.
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Molly
7:29 am
I am hoping when he gets those clubs in his hands again, shows that he is still excellent at what he does, that people will forgive his indiscretions.
I love Tiger Woods, his excellence in his game, and his games that make me feel like I am as good as him (at least in front of my TV).
This countries media should really try covering something more important than another sports figure living like a rock star.
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Ammi
7:30 am
“we are either part of the judgment problem OR the grace solution” – ouch.
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Lindsey Nobles
7:34 am
I think this story brings out how much we think people in the “spotlight” have to be perfect. Athletes aren’t perfect, government officials aren’t perfect, stars aren’t perfect, pastors aren’t perfect, nobody is perfect. It just so happens when “those” people mess up EVERYONE knows about it. Everybody has something they hope no one ever finds out. Tiger messed up, big time, but he and his family will have to deal with the consequences of his actions for years to come. Talking about it, making fun and harassing the family does not make it any better.
This is one reason I actually detest the internet and instant news- it takes the barrier of privacy away and forces families to not only endure the sins of one person but the ridicule of the public. It’s just not right.
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Jessica
7:42 am
we are either part of the judgment problem OR the grace solution I agree @Lindsey – ouch. Thanks Pete for giving us some perspective this morning – his sins are no worse than anyone else’s “private sins” his are just publicized!
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Brittany
7:43 am
Good word, Pete .. (and Mike)
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Fred McKinnon
7:51 am
Thank you for posting this. You, and Mike, are right on!
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Jason
7:52 am
My hope out of all of this, is for people to stop worshiping people… There is only room for ONE God in our lives. Humans fail. God does not. Let us focus our attention and worship solely on Him.
I’m praying for Tiger, but also for all of us.
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JD in Canada
7:59 am
I’ve wrestled with this as well. Tiger was my hero (and probably much too close to an idol). I reacted quite strong. However, I’m not sure I totally agree with number 5. Isn’t there some potential for both/and here? I’m not sure I see all “judgment” as lacking grace and all grace as lacking “judgment.” If God is a good and fair judge, isn’t he so because of his grace? And if God is a God of undeserving grace, isn’t this His “judgment?”
I’m not claiming to have this figured out…Just wrestling! Any thoughts?
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Paula Reply:
December 18th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
John – I question this all the time. And at what point of acknowledging something that’s wrong turn from discernment to judgment? Doesn’t the wrong doing have to be acknowledged in order to extend grace?
Wrestling alongside you…
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Pete Wilson Reply:
December 18th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Great question JOhn. I’ve got nothing for you in the way of an answer though.
My experience is that most people know right from wrong. Throwing stones rarely encourages authentic confession and healing though.
In Tiger’s case he’s clearly stated he was wrong. I can now debate in my mind whether this statement is true or forced but I gain nothing out of that debate. My only real choice is to believe and trust his sincerity and simply pray for reconciliation in his family.
At the end of the day nobody (except Jesus) walks the balance between truth and grace. We all tend to lean to one side or the other.
Struggling with you!
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John Alexander
8:02 am
Yes, God loves Tiger Woods. Period. Who are we to judge what God loves. Also, here is a tough quote from our Lord:
33 “Either make the tree good, and its fruit good, or make the tree corrupt, and its fruit corrupt; for the tree is known by its fruit. 34 You offspring of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. 35 The good man out of his good treasure brings out good things, and the evil man out of his evil treasure brings out evil things. 36 I tell you that every idle word that men speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”” Matthew 12:33-37 (World English Bible)
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Daniel
8:08 am
Excellent thoughts! I think we are too quick to judge and not be life giving. I have always wondered how we would feel if all of our faults and failures were broadcast on the evening news, or the butt of Jay Leno’s jokes. Yes, it was wrong, but as the body of Christ let’s be above the world on this.
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Jeff Miller
8:10 am
I wrote a blog post on this as well:
http://thoughtsaboutnothing.com/tigers-drive-that-got-away/
I was watching Orange County Choppers last night and saw a commercial for a story they were doing on the untold story of Tiger Woods. I kind of laughed, then got upset, and then realized how many people are going to watch or set their DVR’s for that hour of “entertainment”
I have realized that I am just like Tiger, capable of doing all of these things and in need of constant grace. I realize that when we throw stones we are saying that we are better then others, we are propping ourselves up only that we will actually fall farther to the ground because we have put ourselves above these “sinners’
Christ Humbled Himself and became a servant.
Philippians 2
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Kyle Reed
8:21 am
Thank you for this post!! I have always admired Tiger Woods for his hard work, determination, and most of all his desire to win and be the best day in and day out. His competitive nature has inspired me to want to be the very best at all that I do. I am sad for him right now. I do not condone his actions but my heart goes out to him and his family. However, I do not put his actions past myself or anyone. I would love to say that I wouldn’t have done what he did but I don’t think we can say that and be 100% sure. The human nature is to give in, to take the easy way in and out, to fall into temptation. I thank Jesus that he has provided a way for us as Christians to fight, stand up, and be strong!! He said that He has given us everything that we need to be holy and blameless..such an awesome promise!! I choose to walk the high road..I pray that the Lord restores and heals his marriage. I pray He heals the wounds in both Tiger’s and his family’s hearts, and I pray that Tiger will have the opportunity to go back out when this is over and be a Champion for the Kingdom both on and off the course.
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Matt Price
8:37 am
“You have so many words that you can share in a day. Decide whether they will be about blessing or cursing someone.”
“I visualize two buckets that I can fill. I can add to the ‘Shame Bucket’ or the ‘Second Chance Bucket.’”
“Realize we are either part of the judgment problem or the grace solution. But we can’t be both. So choose wisely.”
All good!! we must be about encouraging and building up…there is no place for believers to be tearing down or ‘building ourselves up’ because the failures of others make us look good (good greek word for that is ‘baloney’)…I’m challenged today to step up my game as for next time it may be me…thankful that I serve a God of the second chance…
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steveharrison
8:42 am
it’s posts like this that keep me checking back even when i’m drudging through a day and don’t feel like reading or “taking anything in.”
i wish i had your way with words and could express so gracefully my stance instead of getting frustrated or defensive.
i also love how you connect us to other people who have a healthy outlook and approach to our daily challenges.
i definitely choose the “grace solution.”
thanks for taking the time to write today’s blog and reach out to people in ways that they will actually be able to utilize throughout their “everyday.”
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tanya
8:42 am
So good, I put it on FB.
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Linda
9:10 am
Mike Foster nailed it so completely that you really can’t rebut what the man wrote down. That’s why I love POTSC…if people let their message soak in so many lives will change.
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Jason
9:11 am
Mr. Foster’s post is an important reminder that there are many who feel the world is entitled to their opinion and few who choose to use that opportunity to spread the words of love, forgiveness and second chances. May we all follow his lead and use our opportunities well.
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Tracy
9:13 am
i am wondering now: what happens with all of this publicity and hype around tiger’s mistakes?
i wonder how all of this affects him. will he be encouraged to fix the mistakes, seek out help, will he feel any sort of support or hope or ability to be the sort of person he wants to be? does he even WANT to be any certain sort of person?
are people tearing him to shreds so much that he cannot grow?
is he being treated like a sort of toy to throw around and possibly break?
i’m really confused about how all of this will affect him- i remember one of your “dirty little secret” lessons revolving around pulling things from the dark into the light and that being the only way to resolve and be forgiven. tiger’s has been beyond brought out into the light, but can it be so much that it hurts him more than helps him? do you think any part of him feels relief that his secrets are out? i just wonder these things.
i look at michael jackson and how he was ridiculed in the same way…i really can’t put all of these observations and questions together for an answer.
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Pete Wilson Reply:
December 18th, 2009 at 9:28 am
And the beauty Tanya is we don’t have to. We don’t need an answer to how all of this is going to turn out. We just have to pray and treat him the way Jesus would.
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tanya
9:16 am
The question I keep asking myself in this situation is this: If I were in Tiger’s position and had women literally throwing themselves at me, how would I measure up? Tiger undeniably messed up but many of us, given the same temptations might well have failed also. Perhaps a part of the lesson ought to be that all of us need to be more careful when we are away from home and establish for ourselves a deliberate system to reduce temptation. Perhaps we call home, perhaps we have a friend call us at a random time in the evening, if possible, travel with a friend.
“One day he went into the house to attend to his duties, and none of the household servants was inside. She caught him by his cloak and said, “Come to bed with me!” But he left his cloak in her hand and ran out of the house.” Genesis 39:11-12
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John Partridge
9:29 am
I am guilty as charged, not so much throwing stones but just mesmerized with the whole story. (I’ll try to do better)
One thing that struck me was Accountability. In your sermons, you’ve spoken so much about surrounding yourself, “doing life”, with like minded Christians who will call you aside and tell you when you’re messing up. I truly believe Tiger loves his wife and family and although I know we’re ultimately all responsible for our own behavior, I wonder if things would have been different, had there been someone who could have given him some love filled advice.
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britt
9:29 am
Amen, Pete and Mike. Thank you!
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Karen
9:32 am
I completely agree with you Pete! It’s so easy to be judgemental of someone else’s faults – especially someone who is nothing more than a face in a magazine instead of a friend. Tiger needs God’s love, grace, and acceptance now more than ever. And who are we to judge him when we each have a plank in our own eyes that we need to remove?
One thing I disagree on is your view of the media. Yes, they have to make money, but I don’t think they need to exploit people’s lives in order to earn that revenue. If our movies and tv shows didn’t make infidelity glamorous, and put stars on pedestools then their “fall” would not be so newsworthy. The media created these problems and now they are exploiting them for money. Shame on them.
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Lynn
9:45 am
When we get into a frenzy of judgement towards other people, I equate it to the 800 pound man seeing the 1000 pound man at the all-you-can-eat buffet and saying, “Now THAT guy has a problem!”
We all have a problem, and we all have the gift of grace if we choose to accept it.
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katdish
10:04 am
Yes, AMEN! Grace is the answer. There but for the grace of God go each of us. A quick check of scripture to take note of the “kind of sinner” Jesus would seek to restore is very revealing. Notice the “kind of sinner” he rebuked. Very instructive for us.
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Mile in Milwaukee
10:09 am
I read Mike’s post too. I was literally in the moment of talking bad about Tiger and his choices….until I realized that I am not that perfect and wonderful myself. Mike hit the nail on the head when he talked about our words, our blogs and how much grace we show towards others. What I think would be awesome if a whole bunch of Christians started to vocally show grace towards Tiger..instead of joining in with the media and beating this man down.
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Pete Wilson Reply:
December 18th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Yep…he busted me too.
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Tiffany
10:19 am
AMEN PETE!
Everyone is piling on and while I will admit one in the limelight must be much more cautious in their actions than the rest of the world, this family will not be left alone for a long long while when they need to be working some things out.
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joseph
11:13 am
My initials thoughts were: This is not how his Daddy raised him. I thought of his children, because I know Tiger wants to be a good dad. I am hoping his marriage wasn’t just for her looks and the title, but even if it were, I also hope he is now remembering from whence he came and his “indefinite leave from golf” is a strong and committed attempt to make his family right. I am praying for the restoration and healing of his marriage and family. I HATE that celebrities aren’t given the same considerations we all want and usually get.
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Cheryl Floyd
11:38 am
We are thinking alike today. Kudos to me for doing that!
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Ron Edmondson
12:14 pm
I found myself at the outset judging Tiger. Then I was challenged by @jclayville and @MikeFoster and others to rethink my position. Not easy, but had to be done. I’m grateful to those who challenge me in these areas.
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Faye
12:18 pm
Wow. so true & although I did not speak ill if Tiger I am guilty in the past for other issues. Thanks.
& I do wish the media would leave Tiger & his family alone to sort out their own issues. I was appalled by seeing the paparazzi directing horrendous questions at Elin right by her car as she was putting the children in the car.
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cam
12:22 pm
Such a great topic! Sam and I have talked about this a bit for the same reason. There’s a fine line between discernment and judgement (one of which I have recently been focusing on) and grace vs condoning of wrong behavior.
Similarly, there’s the issue of protecting image (= $) and working through something wrong to make it right. As a PR professional, this can be very tough and it’s easy to falter this delicate dance. I’ve tried to take Tiger’s case as one of learning for me (professionally).
It’s all a fine line in any situation – large or small.
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Paula
12:36 pm
What I have problem with is with some of the mistresses. How willingly they give interviews and share information just to get their 15 minutes of fame. I hope I don’t sound judgmental. I just find it sad.
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Andy
12:38 pm
Number 5 is just killer. It must be part of our sin nature that makes being part of the judgement problem so much more self-affirming than being a part of the grace solution.
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Hal Thomas
1:09 pm
As much as we’re talking about extending grace, we must also be strong enough to warn people that putting their hopes in ANY human being is at some point going to result in disappointment. We are going to let somebody down at some point.
Tiger Woods isn’t the problem as it so much the public is the problem because they see only the public side of Tiger Woods. They don’t see any of the marital issues, life issues, etc. that he is dealing with. The public is led into this false sense of security that Tiger has it all together. He’s the greatest golfer ever. He has a beautiful wife. He has gorgeous kids. He has money and the fame does not seem to have gone to his head.
And then it all comes crashing down. And for whatever reason, the public is “shocked” that this could happen. Why? Why is anybody shocked? We’re shocked because we take too much time elevating people to levels they cannot possibly live up to.
There is only one who will never let us down. He will never fail. He will never disappoint. He will never stumble. He will never hurt us.
That is only Jesus.
If more people would recognize that He is the only one who will ever live up to standards none of us could imagine, then we wouldn’t be so shocked when we learn about things like this. We’d be much quicker to offer grace because we’d be of the understanding that we as humans have serious issues, and no matter who we are, what sports we play or do not play or how much money we have, sooner or later, we’re going to screw up and somebody is going to get hurt in the process.
Rant over.
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Jay
2:13 pm
Spot on. Read the article the other day on POTSC’s blog. I had similar thoughts the other day when I posted on the subject. Definitely a need to step up our game and be the followers of Christ that God would want us to be. You can check out my thoughts here…
http://georgetallmagetalks.wordpress.com/2009/12/11/tigerwoods-and-my-two-cents/
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George
2:25 pm
What about Jon Gosselin? He can’t hit a golf ball all that well and he was never a media darling… but does the same grace apply to him?
Hope so.
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mpt
6:15 pm
Can anyone name a person (current or historical) who was completely driven in the pursuit of abc and not at the expense of xyz? It begs the question: Can we have it all? Can you have that drive and determination to excel above all others in your chosen field AND walk that fine line of grace? Or is it more common that those who are wanting/lacking/needing in important aspects of their lives overcompensate (or however you might phrase it). Finally, which came first? The want or the drive? Are people driven because they are lacking or are they lacking because of the blinders facilitating their drive?
Does any of this make sense or have I gone off the deep end?
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Gini
6:27 pm
Tiger is one thing, but what happens when a church goer does something like this? Instead of the clergy moving toward them with grace, the usual response is to censure and discipline which then becomes a feeding frenzy for the rest of the congregation. It just happened in our church last month. Yikes, is the Bible still relevant?
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Des
7:41 pm
so easy to see the speck in someone else’s eye and miss the log in our own eye…and…there but for the grace of God go (any of us and all of us)! His suffering will last a long time; the impact far-reaching. He needs our prayers, as does his entire family~ a great Christmas gift from the world!
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Lisa
8:35 pm
“devote your computer keyboard to the restoration of people”
I love that sentence. Words matter. Whether said out loud or written for the whole world to see. It like the old saying goes: “If you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all.”
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Rachel
8:46 pm
I’ve been waiting for you to post on this. I know you’re a Tiger fan. I’m absolutely crushed about this. Tiger is one of my biggest heroes with emphasis on ‘is’. I can’t resolve my grief about this. I can’t get by it. It’s absolutely devastating.
I feel his pain. In my crazy 80s party days I also experienced the colossal humiliation…I crashed and burned. Socially, domestically, professionally, and unfortunately, legally. There wasn’t anyone I knew who didn’t know. I wasn’t on the cover of People of course but everyone read about it locally and the notoriety was absolutely unbearable. But I was lucky. People in the next town had no idea. I can’t fathom what Tiger must be going through. People in Sri Lanka know about this. It’s impossible to comprehend that kind of torment.
Those awful days are a valued part of my testimony now, especially in prison ministry. A good friend of mine actually told me he was jealous because his testimony was boring compared to mine. I reminded him that I had to live in hell for about 8 years to get it and that seemed to diminish his envy.
My prayer is that these troubled times that Tiger is enduring will serve him and others similarly in the future. Only through Christ is that possible.
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Bill Renfrew
11:03 pm
Very well spoken! Thanks for posting this for us to remember!
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Shelley
5:26 am
My answer to you question is in my blog post listed below. I am tired of hearing about it and feel like we should not be casting stones but throwing a life line. Will he take it? That is not our call. Our call is to throw it and pray as we do. Good post Pete.
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Bill (cycleguy)
5:41 am
Hey Pete,
A friend pointed me to your post. I appreciate your thoughts. Too many of us are on the wrong side of the stones. We don’t understand the gravity of our own sin and depravity. We have a shallow understanding of grace, and see ourselves as so much better.
I have posted recently on our Porn to Purity blog about Tiger Woods. I work regularly with men who have struggled with sexual addiction.
http://porntopurity.wordpress.com/2009/12/18/what-guys-in-sexual-addiction-recovery-think-about-tiger-woods/
Thanks for your good blog!
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Jeff Fisher
8:39 am
One of my biggest mottos is “I’m not done living yet, and life has a way of shutting your mouth!” I always try to give grace because I might someday need some myself. Especially when it comes to my kids. I can say all day “mine would never say or do or act like that” but in the end the only person I can be fully responsible for is me! I can just hope and pray I’ve taught them the same thing. Great post.
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Christie Ulrich
11:01 am
Pete I saw this on Facebook under POTSC. I really appreciate you using your influence to spread this even further.
I hate the fact that most people, Christians and not, choose this moment to drag someone else through the mud. No one has a problem when we benefit from that person, but as soon as the benefits are gone the stones come out.
I have done more than enough to be ostracized by my family and community. I’m just grateful that TMZ doesn’t follow me around recording all my faults.
As I mentioned on the Facebook post, I have been called to be a part of God’s restoration here on earth just as He is restoring me. The moment I take the role of God and begin casting judgment I miss out on my true role as God’s hands and feet.
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Pete Wilson Reply:
December 19th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
You are so right!
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John
11:05 am
Such a fascinating topic on so many levels. I think you’ve done an excellent job here with such an important and difficult issue.
I actually just sent Jon from Stuff Christians Like an idea for a guest post about this, so it’s quite timely to see yet another post about it.
Thank you.
-Marshall Jones Jr.
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bondChristian
5:24 pm
Great stuff. So many of us make the mistake of running from a fellow Believer who has fallen … like a leper, we avoid them. We’re quick to back away, condemn them. We’re so afraid of what the world will say … that they’ll label us all, along with the guilty party, a hypocrite, that they’ll question our faith and our God, etc. … when, instead we should realize what an OPPORTUNITY we’ve been given in these situations. Grace is the one thing that separates us, the one thing Christianity can offer that no one else can. It’s our calling card. And, mistakes/sins/transgressions are our opportunity to SHINE, to show others what Christ is all about. I mean, without transgression, there can be no grace … none of what’s BEST about our God, our faith. So, in my estimation, we should be THANKFUL, in a sense, for the brokenness of others. They’re our opportunity to reflect our Lord, to offer what we’ve been offered, to show someone else God’s love and, if they’re not a Believer, maybe grow the Kingdom.
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Jason Jones
1:45 pm
I totally agree and do believe we need to extend grace to Tiger. Kicking him while he’s down is not the answer, no matter how horrible and dishonorable we may think his actions were. We don’t have to condone what he did, we just offer forgiveness.
For me… and this goes in step with what you alluded to in the intro of your post… the issue with Tiger is just a symptomatic example of a larger issue. We live in a society where infidelity is almost glamorized by what we’re exposed to on TV, through film, etc. Even the subtle ways it’s shared sends a message that desensitizes some from it. Add in a little personal success… power… money… the temptations just seem to explode. Headline after headline of prominent politicians, celebrities, sports figures, etc who cheat. People who seem to have so much going for them but are still obviously looking for something else to fill the void. Doesn’t just happen to the well know but also to the guy or gal next door. THAT is what bothers me most. Our nation needs to reclaim its moral compass. Truth is needed more than ever. We need to raise the bar but also make certain that we, as believers, are being living examples of Christ (as best we can) so that we can help show that there IS a better way.
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Daniel Decker
6:46 pm
My hassle with the whole episode, was why on earth are we so HUNGRY for someone else’s life.. Leave Him BE. What he does is between Him and His God(if he believes in one). Its not my business.
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Mysoul
2:40 pm
Pete I just wrote about “How Jesus Would Respond To Tiger”
Check it out… its short and sweet. http://www.beancreator.com
JESUS DOES CONDEMN US OR CONDONE OUR SIN! He just loves us.
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Casey Graham
7:44 pm
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