Measuring Spiritual Formation

We’ve found a lot of different ways to measure spiritual formation over the years.

-church attendance
-clean language
-dressing the part
-paying for indulgences
-memorizing Scripture
-serving in the church

There is obviously nothing inherently wrong with any of these things in and of themselves. A matter of fact some of them may be foundational for spiritual formation, but not the way in which we should measure it. It’s so easy to fall into the trap of believing one can somehow measure their spiritual maturity by checking off how many of the “do’s” have been performed and how many of the “don’ts” have been avoided. However, real spiritual formation isn’t evaluated by how well we perform a list of tasks on a check-off list. Jesus said…

John 13:35 35 “By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

Matthew 22: 36″Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” 37Jesus replied: ” ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

In other words Jesus said, spiritual maturity is measured in the context of relationships.  Are you interested in how you’re doing at having Christ formed in your life?  Then take at look at how you’re loving God and loving people.

40 Comments:

  1. The theme….walk in love. I’ve been studying the scriptures all summer with regards to this one command. In our society, we think love has to involve warm, fuzzy feelings and firm compatibility. No so. We are called to love even when we disagree, with compassion. And we can love total strangers with our actions, our heart and spirit. It is such a treasure.
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    Melissa Irwin

    2009.08.17
    6:44 am

  2. Pete, just want you to know I enjoy your blog and following your podcasts from Crosspoint’s services. Wondering if you might have a good resource for Sunday School material for a “30-40 somethings” class. Seems like ours is a little stale (I really don’t think it’s our attitude that’s stale, because we are eager). We use the adult book from Standard Publishing. Thanks for your help and your insight.

    And yes, I think spiritual maturity is more from relationships. First, your relationship with God (life experiences, prayer life, etc.) and then your relationships with others. Although, I do think some of the things you’ve listed are important for a foundation, for continued growth, and to serve as an example. Wasn’t exactly sure what you meant by dressing the part and paying for indulgences, though.
    Watched “Immersing your mind” podcast and wondered if what you avoid in daily life to not “muddy” your mind. Certain music, TV, etc.?

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    Teresa M.

    2009.08.17
    6:55 am

  3. Good thoughts pete. I think one of the reasons people like to use the list you gave at the beginning because they can go “check” “check” as hey check of the list and feel good about having “done” their religion. But it is scary to involve ourselves in relationships that cost something. (Jesus said something about that didn’t He?) Your suggestion takes some serious soul searching. Good post Pete.
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    bill (cycleguy)

    2009.08.17
    6:57 am

  4. Sorry: as they check off the list.
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    bill (cycleguy)

    2009.08.17
    6:58 am

  5. Thank you for saying that. I think so many times we’re quick to judge on where a person is in their spiritual walk by some of their lifestyle choices that, in the long run, don’t mean a hill of beans when compared to their love for their Lord and their love for the neighbor.

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    CarpoolQueen

    2009.08.17
    7:28 am

  6. And to clarify – I mean lifestyle choices that aren’t in opposition to what God says in the Bible.

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    CarpoolQueen

    2009.08.17
    7:30 am

  7. More and more convinced, that if “that which is of first importance” (1 Co 15) gets “old,” the heart of love (and inherent obedience) gets “cold”
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    Jack Hager

    2009.08.17
    7:31 am

  8. Good stuff!!! Reiterating what God is driving home to me now!!
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    Kendra

    2009.08.17
    7:43 am

  9. I enjoyed your talk about this topic last night and it got me to thinking.

    How spiritual would we think we were if we did not have church or church related activities in our lives?

    In other words, strip away everything that our society has become to accept as spiritual and what would we have left.

    Would God still be there?

    He was there a lot less than I would have liked for Him to be when I applied that thought to my life.
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    Harold

    2009.08.17
    8:27 am

  10. Can someone remind me of the name of the song from the end of service yesterday? The one Todd sang.
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    Anna

    2009.08.17
    8:57 am

  11. I read a tweet from someone in your church yesterday quoting you saying “Spiritual maturity is measured in relationships” and I did not know exactly what to think. Relationships don’t come easily to me and it bothered me to think why God would create someone to naturally relate better with others and thus become more “mature” and others he places at a disadvantage.

    Reading your blog post I agree with you that how much one loves God by loving others IS a mark of spiritual maturity, and some would even say it’s a mark of a true Christian.
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    Torybee

    2009.08.17
    9:49 am

  12. Great post! Keep ‘em comin’!
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    Aaron B. Reddin

    2009.08.17
    9:51 am

  13. Hmmm…for some reason I am wondering now if I really believe that the things you listed are not inherently wrong. I think some of them might be–especially paying for indulgences.

    Harold’s comment is resonating with me. I stopped going to church a couple of years back. I’m part of a small Bible study group that meets each week in a church. But since I stopped going to church services, it seems there’s less static on the Holy Spirit radio station.

    I’m not saying every one should jump on the same path I’m on. It’s just that I’ve learned so much about the forest, the poison ivy, where the best berries are, what to do if you spot a grizzly, the best shelters in storms, how to give first aid, etc. on this kind of journey. I’ve had only the compass (the Word), the North Star (the three-in-one God), a few fellow travelers who agree to meet up every now and then, and my own NEED to figure out how to survive and how to thrive.

    I think I have learned more that way than if I would have stuck with the pack and our trail guides–who really are a highly enthusiastic and brilliant and fun group– but are really not that much different than me (except they get paid for hitting the trail.)

    Thanks for the reminder that our journey toward spiritual maturity is all about love. Whether we travel in a pack or solo, we should try to greet those we meet with grace and peace and a desire to see them the way God does–as valuable image bearers and loved ones.

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    ttm

    2009.08.17
    10:01 am

  14. @ttm, you’re right. There is something wrong with indulgences. That one should not have been wrapped in that statement. My bad.

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    Pete Wilson

    2009.08.17
    10:12 am

  15. @Harold, great question.

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    Pete Wilson

    2009.08.17
    10:13 am

  16. So true.

    So important to be loving and encouraging others.
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    Brunettekoala

    2009.08.17
    11:08 am

  17. Well said, Pete. Right on target. (Melissa I., and others, you too.)

    I like the way Greg Boyd sums up “agape” love, the New Testament word for how we’re to love both God and our neighbors: “not a feeling one has … rather a commitment one makes, a stance one takes toward another, and an activity one does … a kind of love you can have … when the other is your enemy … the kind of love God had for us while we were yet sinners and the kind of love we are commanded to have toward all others. It is the kind of love God was aiming at in creating the world.” (Boyd, Repenting of Religion; Turning from Judgment to the Love of God. Baker, 2004.)

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    Pete A.

    2009.08.17
    11:16 am

  18. Exactly.

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    Stephen Stonestreet

    2009.08.17
    11:36 am

  19. @Anna, I would like to know as well. Great song.
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    WesHoward

    2009.08.17
    11:40 am

  20. Pete, I made my home for a few months in a place where perceived maturity had nothing to do with love and much to do with attendance and dress, etc. Because I was brought up in a very different kind of setting, I wanted to hang a banner the size of Texas that said, “they will know we are Christians by our LOVE for one another.”

    My heart was broken for myself and for those who were hurt by the attitudes of this place, but–hypocrisy aside–I refused to have my heart broken for the women who heaped hurt on those who didn’t meet their standards. After years of Jonah-like running, I am just now at the place where I am truly, deeply ashamed of the contempt I felt toward those people. I refused to bring the teaching of grace to them. Ugh. I have repented of this lack of love, and I hope and pray I continue to learn to love my neighbor as myself, even when she doesn’t love me.
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    Anita

    2009.08.17
    12:27 pm

  21. Maybe I should say I hope I learn to love my neighbor as myself. I certainly haven’t learned it yet.

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    Anita

    2009.08.17
    12:30 pm

  22. Absolutely!!!!!!
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    Maureen

    2009.08.17
    12:51 pm

  23. Good word. Keeping ourselves in check.
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    Joey

    2009.08.17
    1:12 pm

  24. Good question. Gave me a nice kick today. Thanks. :)
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    Jason

    2009.08.17
    1:22 pm

  25. Now…the trick is defining what Love God and Love People means. Who wants to take that one on?
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    kc

    2009.08.17
    2:50 pm

  26. Awesome point! Thanks for this post…I have been feeling these ideas tugging at my heart but thank you for putting words to it. Relationship…That why God sent Jesus…relationship. That’s what He wants with us and for us to have with others.
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    Kara

    2009.08.17
    2:52 pm

  27. This hits home. I’m living on the other side of that all important “it” list and am grateful for His grace. His willingness to teach me how to really love others (not just those that already claim Him as Lord) has been life-altering.
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    Jessica

    2009.08.17
    3:23 pm

  28. @KC, I’ll let you take that one bro. Go for it. :)

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    Pete Wilson

    2009.08.17
    6:35 pm

  29. “In other words Jesus said, spiritual maturity is measured in the context of relationships.”

    I totally agree with this, but the real challenge to me comes later in Luke 10 when Jesus is asked “Who is my neighbor?” and Jesus tells the story of the Good Samaritan. The neighbors that God is calling us to love are not the people that we are most comfortable with. They are not the people that go to our church nor are they the people that are like us. God calls us to love outside our comfort zone – just like the Samaritan did. To me, that is the real challenge. I can love my small group quite easily. I can love my family and friends without working too hard. The hard part is that God calls us to reach beyond what is comfortable and love who we might consider to be the “unlovable.” That calls me to prayerfully consider, “Who is my neighbor?”

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    Amanda

    2009.08.17
    6:37 pm

  30. @Amanda, Oh dang. You just kicked me in the teeth. Great question and challenge.

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    Pete Wilson

    2009.08.17
    6:55 pm

  31. I was just mentioning yesterday over lunch that I felt like I had been raised on a checklist of do’s and do nots. That Chritianity was always a list and never a lifestyle for me… God is transforming that view for me through Cross Point.

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    Brian W

    2009.08.17
    7:05 pm

  32. Pete, between you and @Amanda my Spiritual Maturity Cloak is suddenly feeling very scratchy and shrinking as we speak. If I’m not truly loving people, am I truly loving God?
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    Pearl

    2009.08.17
    7:48 pm

  33. I’m about to be as transparent as you can be in the anonymity of the internet and say, I suck at this. I have such an issue with people (fear) that dealing with them nearly sends me into an anxiety attack. Ok, a lot of times it does send me into an anxiety attack. I haven’t even figured out how to love me, let alone my neighbor. Funny, but church is the area of one of my greatest struggles. Oy. Sundays are one of the hardest days of my week. I’m working on it, but at this point, I would fail the outward and the inward stuff. It’s hard to love someone when you are not even able to speak to them and touch them? NOT EVEN gonna happen. Sigh, sometimes this walking it out stuff is ridiculously hard when I can sit here and picture Him and His power and glory and know it shouldn’t be this hard.

    If I am going to continue being honest, which God only knows why I am putting all of this out here, I would probably be one of those that is hard to love. I know that everything about me screams do not disturb because as someone reminded me today, I have walls up everywhere. Thing is, I want to be loved. I want to believe He could love me. I sooooooooooo want to be able to love others. I just don’t know anymore if it’s ever going to happen or if I’m just stuck.

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    Julie

    2009.08.17
    7:59 pm

  34. You all are asking such good questions, and especially “what does that mean?”

    You’re all welcome to see a prelim version of my stab at answering some of that (3,000 verses’ worth), at http://www.sparkleofnature.com.

    It asks exactly what the Bible does say “loving our neighbors” means – who they are, their needs, ideas on how to love them. Or at least what I’ve learned so far, since God finally clubbed me over the head enough to make me realize “this is important.” (Don’t even ask how long that took; I was a slow learner.)

    Right now a publisher’s looking at it (in a more complete version) but we don’t know yet when to expect it out – maybe a year, we hope? In the meantime you’re welcome to take advantage of this version. It has all the Scriptures; just not all the stories. Hope it’ll help somemone.

    By the way, Jesus raised the bar even higher than loving others “as we love ourselves.” That’s our first goal. But in John 13:34-35, and a couple more places nearby, he told us to love each other “as I love you!” That one will give certainly give me a whole lifetime of challenge.

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    Pete A.

    2009.08.17
    8:30 pm

  35. Pete-I suppose a thousand blogs wouldn’t scratch the surface but how about….
    Love God = listening and obeying over and over again
    Love People = being open and available to move into someone’s life in any manner God directs.
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    kc

    2009.08.17
    9:07 pm

  36. Thanks for the reminder. I keep thinking of what I could do next to form spiritual maturity but you are right we need to work on our love more.

    I think I have the most difficult time with those who are my family. I am most critical of them but I always feel guilty if I don’t show them love. Maybe that is God trying to get through to me.
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    David

    2009.08.18
    12:39 am

  37. I am not feeling all that loving right now. Actually, I am kind of in the middle of a temper tantrum. I feel trapped by a body that just doesn’t cooperate with what I want to do when. Then, I feel trapped by my circumstances-which is where I think my place of ministry is right now-my home. Instead of wanting to love on those people right now, I just want to make them all go away. It certainly isn’t convenient that’s for sure. But then, I guess Jesus’ sacrifce wasn’t all that convenient either? I am physcially fatigued yet plagued with insomnia. I have a 22 month old and a three year old who will be awake in about 3-4 hours and I have yet to be asleep. Will I get a nap tomorrow? Probably not.

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    Kels

    2009.08.18
    4:27 am

  38. @Julie and Keis. I really appreciate you guys being so transparent. While Jesus’ statement to love God and love people was a simple statement it certainly is not simply to execute. I’ll be praying for both of you!

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    Pete Wilson

    2009.08.18
    5:06 am

  39. Thanks, Pete. I know I am on the right path to getting where I need to be, but sometimes the process seems to take sooooo long. I just am so thankful that He is more patient than I am.

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    Julie

    2009.08.18
    7:17 am

  40. So… I have been studying the concept of Holiness. This is what I think… we can either practice Superficial Non-conformity or Supernatural Conformity.

    When we make our belief system into a list of do’s and don’ts in order to not appear to be like the world, we make it into something superficial. Even if there is a beneficial side to those practices, if we are doing it in order to appear non-conforming, we miss the point.

    On the converse, Love, the fruit of the Spirit, sanctification – we can accomplish none of those things in our own power. We have to be Supernaturally conformed to His likeness through the work of the Holy Spirit.

    Ultimately, its a matter of who is in control… Superficial Non-Conformity is just another way that we try to be in control of how we live out our faith…. whereas, Supernatural Conformity comes when we recognize that we can’t do it on our own.
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    Tony York

    2009.08.18
    7:07 pm

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