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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 02:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exuma.
Camp (for the AMAZING sunsets).
the night sky.
flying through clouds.
actually, pretty much ANY nature makes me stop and realize how amazing and creative and breath-taking God is!
.-= Susan&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://missionsminded2818.wordpress.com/2009/06/04/hillsong-united/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hillsong United&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exuma.<br />
Camp (for the AMAZING sunsets).<br />
the night sky.<br />
flying through clouds.<br />
actually, pretty much ANY nature makes me stop and realize how amazing and creative and breath-taking God is!<br />
.-= Susan&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://missionsminded2818.wordpress.com/2009/06/04/hillsong-united/" rel="nofollow">Hillsong United</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 20:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awww, I just found this blog (never been here before)...awww...I just feel bad for Pete and Pete&#039;s wife.

I, too, am a pastor&#039;s kid and pastors work SO HARD.  You never see what all they do.  I remember my mom saying that my dad had to leave the house in order to get a &quot;day off&quot; because church people would always stop by if my dad were home.  And that was fine with both of my parents, but if you took a day off and your boss and 2 co-workers came to hang out with you at your house, would you FEEL like it was a real day off?

Eh, I don&#039;t even know what to say.  My dad is the best pastor I know because he is a pastor to the people.  He&#039;s retired now and even still is making hospital calls and nursing home visits for the church he and my mom attend.  He doesn&#039;t get any money for that.  Their budget is super, super tight.  He never made much money, but I&#039;ll tell you what: if you call my dad he will start telling you about Hazel at the nursing home and how she has two sons who play hockey and one is a science teacher in Tampa, Florida and the other played college baseball and is now living in Winnipeg.  Because he cares about people.

I just really feel for pastors these days as the rocks thrown at their glass houses are bigger and bigger and bigger.  

God bless the ministry of Pete, the other pastors that posted comments here or are reading here, the pastor&#039;s wives and families, too.

Ministry is hard, and chopping pastors off at the knees when you really don&#039;t know them seems like cowardice to me.

May God continue to refine us all,
Jeanie in Minnesota</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awww, I just found this blog (never been here before)&#8230;awww&#8230;I just feel bad for Pete and Pete&#8217;s wife.</p>
<p>I, too, am a pastor&#8217;s kid and pastors work SO HARD.  You never see what all they do.  I remember my mom saying that my dad had to leave the house in order to get a &#8220;day off&#8221; because church people would always stop by if my dad were home.  And that was fine with both of my parents, but if you took a day off and your boss and 2 co-workers came to hang out with you at your house, would you FEEL like it was a real day off?</p>
<p>Eh, I don&#8217;t even know what to say.  My dad is the best pastor I know because he is a pastor to the people.  He&#8217;s retired now and even still is making hospital calls and nursing home visits for the church he and my mom attend.  He doesn&#8217;t get any money for that.  Their budget is super, super tight.  He never made much money, but I&#8217;ll tell you what: if you call my dad he will start telling you about Hazel at the nursing home and how she has two sons who play hockey and one is a science teacher in Tampa, Florida and the other played college baseball and is now living in Winnipeg.  Because he cares about people.</p>
<p>I just really feel for pastors these days as the rocks thrown at their glass houses are bigger and bigger and bigger.  </p>
<p>God bless the ministry of Pete, the other pastors that posted comments here or are reading here, the pastor&#8217;s wives and families, too.</p>
<p>Ministry is hard, and chopping pastors off at the knees when you really don&#8217;t know them seems like cowardice to me.</p>
<p>May God continue to refine us all,<br />
Jeanie in Minnesota</p>
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		<title>By: John Q. Public</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Q. Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please see my post (relevant to this post) under the &quot;My Nagging Narcissism&quot; July 22nd post.

I&#039;ve been duly and handily reprimanded....

And... I need to get a life!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please see my post (relevant to this post) under the &#8220;My Nagging Narcissism&#8221; July 22nd post.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been duly and handily reprimanded&#8230;.</p>
<p>And&#8230; I need to get a life!  <img src='http://withoutwax.tv/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Phil Chalos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Chalos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete,

Like Tim Helton , I was at school when your dad was dean and didn&#039;t realize he was Jesus ...he couldnt have been Jesus because I was put through hell when I was there and Jesus wouldn&#039;t do that. Soooo you cant be Jesus Jr. thought I&#039;d clear that up for John Q.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete,</p>
<p>Like Tim Helton , I was at school when your dad was dean and didn&#8217;t realize he was Jesus &#8230;he couldnt have been Jesus because I was put through hell when I was there and Jesus wouldn&#8217;t do that. Soooo you cant be Jesus Jr. thought I&#8217;d clear that up for John Q.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dad is a pastor and I will never forget how stressed I would see him at times. Watching my father, I learned that being a pastor is not your typical 9 to 5 day job where you can just clock out at the end of the day and all your problem are put on hold and you pick up the next day. If Pete is taking a vacation, good for him! he probably needs it. As far as the whole facebook, twitter thing. I think that&#039;s genius! He like so many other pastors are doing the smart thing and leveraging the mediums that so many people are using now a days! 

I personally think people are giving way too much attention to this John Q. guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dad is a pastor and I will never forget how stressed I would see him at times. Watching my father, I learned that being a pastor is not your typical 9 to 5 day job where you can just clock out at the end of the day and all your problem are put on hold and you pick up the next day. If Pete is taking a vacation, good for him! he probably needs it. As far as the whole facebook, twitter thing. I think that&#8217;s genius! He like so many other pastors are doing the smart thing and leveraging the mediums that so many people are using now a days! </p>
<p>I personally think people are giving way too much attention to this John Q. guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Elisha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, I meant to say &quot;word of God&quot;, not &quot;world of God&quot;, but I guess they both work!

And Paula...I can&#039;t wait to see your new digs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, I meant to say &#8220;word of God&#8221;, not &#8220;world of God&#8221;, but I guess they both work!</p>
<p>And Paula&#8230;I can&#8217;t wait to see your new digs!</p>
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		<title>By: Allison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you can see Paul Q is a troll.  He has not even been back to respond.  No need in getting upset or focusing on people like that they are the ones who have the issues that need to be prayed for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you can see Paul Q is a troll.  He has not even been back to respond.  No need in getting upset or focusing on people like that they are the ones who have the issues that need to be prayed for.</p>
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		<title>By: Heidi Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heidi Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>funny in a not so ha ha funny way.
i just quit my blog b/c of someone who was also hiding behind fake names and thrashing me on a regular basis.
the last post i did was # 666.
i am not superstitious at all, but how interesting that the post i quit on b/c of some jerk behind the &quot;curtain&quot; was that number.

hmmm.
i have to think about this more.

pete, even ppl who don&#039;t go to your church really like you and connect with you. you&#039;ve been there spiritually for me in more ways than you can imagine. it&#039;s nice to see a pastor who is human. broken. torn. and alive!

God bless you and your gorgeous family!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>funny in a not so ha ha funny way.<br />
i just quit my blog b/c of someone who was also hiding behind fake names and thrashing me on a regular basis.<br />
the last post i did was # 666.<br />
i am not superstitious at all, but how interesting that the post i quit on b/c of some jerk behind the &#8220;curtain&#8221; was that number.</p>
<p>hmmm.<br />
i have to think about this more.</p>
<p>pete, even ppl who don&#8217;t go to your church really like you and connect with you. you&#8217;ve been there spiritually for me in more ways than you can imagine. it&#8217;s nice to see a pastor who is human. broken. torn. and alive!</p>
<p>God bless you and your gorgeous family!</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Elisha - good to see you on here - can&#039;t wait to catch up when you get back into town.  Need to have you over!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Elisha &#8211; good to see you on here &#8211; can&#8217;t wait to catch up when you get back into town.  Need to have you over!</p>
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		<title>By: Elisha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John Q Public...

I am an avid follower of Pete&#039;s blog and am in the process of becoming a member of Cross Point Church.  I&#039;m not one to post comments on his blog, basically because I am not nearly as eloquent as Pete, or as most of those who do comment, but I do enjoy reading them.  But after reading your comments I feel moved to respond.

As someone who has been a lifelong Christian, I have had my share of judgmental views such as yours.  And that is precisely why I have struggled with my relationship with the church.  Finding Cross Point, and Pete, has given me a place where I can get my spiritual nourishment, guidance, and growth.  The first time I visited, tears filled my eyes because I felt closer to God that I had ever felt.  Pete has a gift of bringing the world of God to us in a myriad of ways.  I am constantly amazed at his work ethic.  He does more before 9 a.m. than most people do in an entire day!  His facebook and twitter activity are ways to stay in touch with thousands of people who may never step into Cross Point church, but who are benefiting from Pete&#039;s love of God, and God&#039;s love of us.  

I didn&#039;t realize that you make it a habit to comment (anonymously), which amazes me.  If you feel that Pete is so off the mark, why do you continue to read?  And spend so much time composing such long diatribes?

I live the the &quot;world&quot;, and so do you.  Pete&#039;s &quot;worldly&quot; view is one of the reasons I respect him.  He teaches us how to live in God&#039;s world, not some isolated group of church members who refuse to believe there is a world outside of the church building.

I thank God every day for Pete, and for pastors like him, who bring God to us in a way we can relate to.  

I pray for you, and hope that you will find whatever it is you are looking for.  

And Pete...

My place is Lake Toxaway, NC.  With my husband, my daughter, and my dog.

Thanks for all you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John Q Public&#8230;</p>
<p>I am an avid follower of Pete&#8217;s blog and am in the process of becoming a member of Cross Point Church.  I&#8217;m not one to post comments on his blog, basically because I am not nearly as eloquent as Pete, or as most of those who do comment, but I do enjoy reading them.  But after reading your comments I feel moved to respond.</p>
<p>As someone who has been a lifelong Christian, I have had my share of judgmental views such as yours.  And that is precisely why I have struggled with my relationship with the church.  Finding Cross Point, and Pete, has given me a place where I can get my spiritual nourishment, guidance, and growth.  The first time I visited, tears filled my eyes because I felt closer to God that I had ever felt.  Pete has a gift of bringing the world of God to us in a myriad of ways.  I am constantly amazed at his work ethic.  He does more before 9 a.m. than most people do in an entire day!  His facebook and twitter activity are ways to stay in touch with thousands of people who may never step into Cross Point church, but who are benefiting from Pete&#8217;s love of God, and God&#8217;s love of us.  </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t realize that you make it a habit to comment (anonymously), which amazes me.  If you feel that Pete is so off the mark, why do you continue to read?  And spend so much time composing such long diatribes?</p>
<p>I live the the &#8220;world&#8221;, and so do you.  Pete&#8217;s &#8220;worldly&#8221; view is one of the reasons I respect him.  He teaches us how to live in God&#8217;s world, not some isolated group of church members who refuse to believe there is a world outside of the church building.</p>
<p>I thank God every day for Pete, and for pastors like him, who bring God to us in a way we can relate to.  </p>
<p>I pray for you, and hope that you will find whatever it is you are looking for.  </p>
<p>And Pete&#8230;</p>
<p>My place is Lake Toxaway, NC.  With my husband, my daughter, and my dog.</p>
<p>Thanks for all you do.</p>
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