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Will You Referee?
Brandi and I are having a debate and need your help…
[vimeo http://www.vimeo.com/2176583/]
So what do you think? Should Jett be allowed to call her? How old were you when you called someone of the opposite sex on the phone?
I want to think I was around 10 or so. I can’t remember, but I do remember I would get so nervous talking to girls on the phone that I would write 8-10 different topics on my hand so I would have something to talk about.









134 Comments:
I agree with Brandi. They’re too young. He’ll see her at school.
And you two are darling.
Good Luck!
Heidi Reed
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candidchatter
6:48 am
7 is way too young in my opinion. they can just chat in class, can’t they? it’s cute that she called though, so Jett could just tell her at school that he heard her message and they can talk all they want at school.
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Anna
7:15 am
Sure, let him can call her back, but don’t worry…tomorrow he’ll think she has cooties and will totally ignore her. For that matter, he may already think she has cooties and not even want to call her back anyway.
But I personally think HER parents should have been having this discussion….
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Angie
7:22 am
Brandi has a point…7 is way too young.
Nothing wrong with waiting until 10 though…
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the gibster
7:23 am
I say let him call, but Dad should write ten appropriate and edited things he’s allowed to say to her on his hand!
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SHerri
7:25 am
HMMMM………I’m too old to remember. lol
Seriously, calling back is courtesy but starting the hanging out on the phone thing……..well, they probably are a little young for that.
It would probably be better to wait till after Christmas.
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Tommy Sircy
7:28 am
Would Jett call a boy his age back? If so, he should call the girl back. Why start so early attaching significance that the call came from a GIRL. Friendship between genders is a good thing. IF it crosses a line at some point, revisit the decision, letting Jett know why.
PS You seem to be a terrific momma so please don’t think I’m slamming you Brandi!
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New York Mary
7:29 am
Even though they are only 7…things can happen. Our neighborhood locked my 7 y.o. in a closet (I was 10 ft away & ran to see what the fuss was about…I was too late)& shoved his tongue in her throat.
I’m not saying Jett would do that!! But no reason to encourage them to start being MORE than friends.
Boys should call first, but not until they are at least 10. And even then, I would implement the “the phone is only allowed in the famiy room” rule.
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mandy
7:29 am
@mandy, Holy cow! Now you’ve really got me worried.
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Pete Wilson
7:40 am
It would seem safer to talk on the phone in the living room than on the playground with noone listening. hmmm.
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Archie
7:47 am
Gosh. I don’t know what I would do. I tend to side with Brandi though (must be a mom thing).
I do know that I would have to talk to my husband about it and go from there.
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tabitha
7:49 am
Pete, having been married for 20 years this December, to my dream girl, I’m going to offer you the most profound piece of advice you may ever receive from a blogging friend… are you ready for this?… LISTEN TO YOUR WIFE!!!
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Joseph
7:53 am
What do 7-year-olds really have to talk about on the phone that they can’t talk about at school? I think I would call the parents and let them know that you got the message but that the kids can talk at school. 7 years old just seems too early to start talking on the phone to friends…when they see each other all day at school.
Good Luck!
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Alison
7:56 am
no. that’s just way too young. no reason to let them grow up sooner than they should. not in today’s world.
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Amy N.
7:58 am
It’s always important to listen to your gut and if Brandi doesn’t feel comfortable you BOTH should listen her woman’s intuition.
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Steph
8:03 am
Honestly, I’m going to have to go with Brandi on this one (sorry Pete). Maybe I’d have a different opinion if I had boys but as a father to two girls I’m SO not into the whole boy/girl things that seem to be starting earlier all the time. Kids in Chloe’s (7) class are already talking about boyfriends and girlfriends. Come on, did they skip the whole “Girls/Boys have cooties” stage?
Then again, I’m not sure how objective you can really be in this situation with a nickname like “31 Flavors.”
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chloeruggles
8:07 am
Pete I personally think that you should call th girl back and speak on behalf of Jett.
I teach my sons that Girls Have Kooties!
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Scott Williams
8:07 am
Ummm, that comment up there was actually mine. I forgot Chloe had logged onto my computer to update her blog.
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chloeruggles
8:08 am
Are you kidding me??? The GIRL should never be the first to call….
THAT’S what you all have to look forward to…(speaking of FORWARD)
I agree w/Brandi….
Yeah, right—- calling out of “friendship”….
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OCD-ism/Obsessive Christian Disorder
8:09 am
I love the video blog Pete. I mostly love how you live real life in front of your church and the Internet world. As “cute” as this is though, I believe this should be seen as a “big” deal. You are making important decisions today in the life of your children in regards to the opposite sex and how they will treat them in years to come. My boys are 20 and 17. They are great boys, called to ministry, with passions for life and Christ. I have an incredible relationship with them, but, here’s the deal: I HAVE INFLUENCE OVER THEM NOT CONTROL. Wow! That’s such a huge difference. My philosophy of parenting is something I’ve written and spoke about a lot, so I’ll refer to a post here: http://www.ronedmondson.com/archives/547
My strong encouragement to you, and I’m sure you are already thinking this way, is to use this “cute”, innocent, incident as a HUGE teaching moment. I think its less about the decision you make and more of how you use this moment to build character into your child. You have Jett’s attention and interest for a small moment in time right now. Like someone said, “tomorrow he’ll think she has cooties”, but not for long. Use that moment of interest to help shape his view of women, relationships, etc, so that when you start to lose control someday and only have your influence he will have the foundation to make wise decisions.
Seriously, if you use this as a teaching moment and teach him what he can understand about girls at his age, he probably will decide to simply talk to her at school. If you knew then what you know now, wouldn’t you wait to make the call? (J/K…kinda)
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Ron Edmondson
8:11 am
Ok, am I logged in under my name now? That was weird. Anyhoo…
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bradruggles
8:12 am
Pete…you are a smart man…or so I thought…listen to your wife…she’s right…
No discussion…or debate needed…
And, when Jett is 23, he can return calls from girls…not until then!
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Steve Heartsill
8:17 am
Hey, a topic I actually have had experience with! I have 5 kids, and at least 2 of them have always had friends of the opposite sex as well as their same sex. Up through Grade 2, kids honestly think nothing of this (the teasing and noticing starts around Gr. 3). So I wouldn’t worry or make too much out of this at all. Maybe she was calling to check on something school related. Or maybe she wanted advice on how to get her Pokemon to the next level of play. I doubt they will begin hanging out for hours on the phone–kids don’t do that too much until they are 11 or 12, really. This call is probably no real biggie.
It’s like when your kids fall down and skin their knees: they look to you to see how they are supposed to react. If you get all worked up about the fall, your kids bawl and think they are supposed to feel pain. If you remain sympathetic but calm, they are more likely to move past it quickly, kwim?
That said, since the kids are only 7, you can’t mess this up much no matter which way you decide to handle it, lol! Good luck.
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Jan Connair
8:19 am
All I have to say is I am freaked out now that daughter will be getting phone calls from boys. I mean she is only 3.. but still if it starts happening at 7 that will be here before you know it.
I think i just got several new gray hairs… thanks.
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Adam
8:28 am
I’m with Brandi – must be a mom thing. I don’t even think 2 7 year-old boys have that much to talk about on the phone, but a boy-girl conversation is different. Kids are too interested in boy-girl relationships too early these days. Way before they are old enough to even understand what that means and that’s a slippery slope.
I do think common courtesy is necessary. Jett should either tell her at school that he can’t call girls yet, or you or Brandi should call and let her know.
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Carmen
8:28 am
Not feeling the love from you guys today.
I hope ALL the people on MY SIDE are just sleeping in.
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Pete Wilson
8:29 am
i didn’t get to watch the whole video but i definitely will later….but I agree with Brandi he is too young!
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Iris
8:31 am
im with brandi too. if i had a 7 yr old girl i wouldnt let her call boys..im old fashion. Its good to be old fashion. And I think too young.
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sarah
8:34 am
I think both of you are semi-correct!! But I have to lean towards Pete on this one. The problem is you both are way overthinking this, unless this is one big joke. You are treating this situation like they are going on a date or something. It’s just a phone call!!! I don’t think she wants Jett to come to her house for a sleep over. Besides, Jett was allowed to go stand in line for Taylor Swift, who is over twice his age, but he can’t call a girl back who is in his class, Come on Brandi!! Taylor hugged and kissed him on the cheek. How is that different?? Pete, just wait until Brandi isn’t home and let Jett make the call. Being 7 years old, what’s the worst that can happen. (Don’t answer that!!!!)
Jett is around nothing but boys all the time. It’s time he has some girls around. I will send Eryn over to interview all of them so no need to worry.
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B.J.
8:43 am
My oldest son (he’s 11 now) hasn’t had friends call him much at all. Now, my 2nd son (he’s
has had boys and girls call the house. We’ve let him talk on the phone with a boy, he hasn’t talked to a girl yet on the phone though (even though she did call). He just didn’t seem interested in talking to her on the phone…and he never asked if he could call her back. I guess my boys really aren’t phone talkers though. Having a “girlfriend” at this age…yep, we’ve been dealing with that with both boys! *sigh*
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Annabelle@Christian Momma
8:44 am
i agree with brandi…7 is pretty young for boys and girls to be calling on the phone. have a lego play date or something.
“I would get so nervous talking to girls on the phone that I would write 8-10 different topics on my hand so I would have something to talk about.” – this brought out the LOLs…very George Costanza of you…
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josh lauritch
9:10 am
The obvious solution is buying him a cell phone so that they can text each other. ; )
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Bonky's Mama
9:10 am
I think it’s kinda disrespectful if he doesn’t call her back. There can always be limits set to explain this won’t be a daily occurrence, but since you’ve posted it for hundreds to see and hear, the least he can do is return the call
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Pastor T
9:16 am
Way to young…we had the same thing happen to one of our son’s. Girl calls leaves message, boy is not allowed to call back. When boy does not call back girl leaves more messages. Messages that would make an adult blush. The first message was sweet and cute it was some of the others that caused concern. Needless to say we called her parents to discuss this matter and after the girl never called back.
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Vick
9:18 am
Ok..I kinda agree with both of you, but without explaining all my thoughts and ideas on it…I’m going with momma on this one. The girl probably won’t call back. And, since you don’t know the family…I’d leave it alone and see what happens next. And, yes. It is sweet.
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Fran
9:21 am
@Hey, Pete, I was on your side!!!
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Jan Connair
9:24 am
I have made one of my girls call a boy to get homework information, and I have allowed one of my girls to talk to a boy in K or Grade 1 but I knew the family and I knew they were just buddies. If I didn’t know the family and the angle, I would have the same questions and concerns Brandi has.
I do have a teenager and I did have to have several moments of intense fellowship with her father before she was allowed to talk to boys on the phone. I finally convinced him she had to start before she thought she was too grown up to ask me any questions. When she was old enough, there were ground rules (and there still are) that said she could only spend so much time on the phone with him and she had to stay in a ‘public’ area like the living room or dining room. As she ages, she is allowed a little more freedom and a little more time, but I would rather her do it with boundaries than just be cut loose at the starting gate at a certain age.
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Anita
9:25 am
Im rolling with petey on this one. Everyone knows jett is gonna be a lady killer when he hits his teenage years,might as well try and get some of it out of the way
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Jared Woodard
9:28 am
WOW! Seven is way too young for a girl/boy phone convo. They should totally text each other tho. LOL!!! J/K!
And that girl is assertive! Leaving her number not once, but twice. She has sales in her future, I can feel it.
Pete … go with Brandi on this one.
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Carrie
9:29 am
I think I was like 20 before I even got a girls number so I don’t know if I am a good one to ask. And even then you classify a phone conversation as 5 minutes of silence and breathing followed by a “What are you doing” answered with a “nothing” then followed by 5 more minutes of silence and breathing.
Anyway, I think 7 is a little young. Maybe they could text message? Just kidding!
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Jon
9:34 am
Yes, it’s cute and sweet and just a phone call, and no, it’s really not that big of a deal right now…but how much do you want your boys using the phone? Regardless, I’m with Brandi – 7 is too young and he’ll see her at school. But don’t be fooled into thinking you don’t have to start thinking about it until the boys are 11 or 12 – maybe you won’t, but in today’s world I’m afraid that’s a little naive.
A friend’s FOUR-YEAR-OLD just asked her a few weeks ago, “Mommy, when will boys think I’m hot?”
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juliepersinger
9:35 am
Jett should call her back…..with you both listening of course because maybe it is just a cute little experience and a person should return a phone call that is placed to them…good teaching moment…that said….it should be the last phone call…Jett should tell her he is really not allowed to talk on the phone but thank her for thinking of him or whatever. ( what are this girls parents thinking anyway?)
There is my .02
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Gina
9:43 am
I have 2 boys. One is 17 and one is 7. I have gone thru this with my 17yr old. I didn’t have a problem with it. I am one of these parents that thinks that if you discourage things that are really that bad it just causes problems later.
My 17 yr old went thru that and it was fine. And now they are seniors in High School and those girls are still great friends and most of all they respect us still as parents. We are looked at like friends.
It will be fine. I think he should call her back. I would not make a big deal of this. Trust me, I have been there and done it. I am proud to say my senior in high school is one of the best kids and that is because I allowed him to be him. I allowed him to do those type things.
I think the more you tell a kid NO about something like that, the more they will become “sneaky”.
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Michelle
9:49 am
My parents made me talk to this girl in Kindergarten who liked me and would call me, so it didn’t seem like I was being mean to her. What if one of you had answered the phone instead of it going to the machine? Would he been allowed to talk to her?
I think it is harmless and cute at that age, most of the time they see those relationships as nothing more than friends. If he does not call her back she could think he is mean or rude and it could affect his relationship at school…So I guess I’m with Pete on this one
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ncarnes
10:00 am
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! If he gets a girl pregnant in 7 years Brandi would kill you. Now I realize that is a little drastic, but some people are of the opinion that things like this is what are causing our kids to develop faster sexually. Way to go Brandi, stand your ground mama. And by the way, I only belive those with children sholud be giving their opinion today. I do have three.
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jodyduncan
10:02 am
I’m with Pete on this one. I have an 8 yr old girl and a 7 yr old boy. They both have no concept of the boy/girlfriend thing. They are all just friends. Both have received calls from the the opposite sex. They have always been to see if they could borrow a game, movie or meet on the playground to play Star Wars. That being siad, they only receive maybe 2 calls each per month. It is not an everyday thing.
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Tracy
10:06 am
Pete—wisdom speaks through BRANDI. I agree with her! Brother you better get ready–it’s coming!
And you need to get a better “bleeper” for the number segment. Blah, blah, blah is so Old school
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Jim Drake
10:10 am
Treat it the same as computer use – as long as you monitor the call, not much can happen. There is also the STRONG possibility that he won’t want to call her back. Girls are ICKY!!!!
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Susan Wolfe
10:21 am
I will start by saying that parents should work together and PLAN when they will allow kids to do certain activities. It makes it much easier to manage when you are both on the same page before the issue comes up.
My parents ‘let’ me have girlfriends when I was young. Maybe they thought it was harmless but when I was 9, an 11 year old girl taught me the whole kissing with the tongue involved. I wasn’t expecting that and was a little caught off guard but I got really curious about things after that.
I now have two daughters of my own. Both are older than 10 and neither of which are allowed to be making calls to young men. That is for later in life… they are not ready for all that drama yet. Why make puberty worse than it needs to be by throwing gas on the flames?
I am with Brandi…. Sorry, Pete.
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tonyyork
10:23 am
as a dad of a seven year old girl, I gotta tell you I’d probably have a hard time with a guy calling her. But I’d monitor it very closely, as in listen in on another phone.
But I’d probably be okay with it. Now I also have to say I probably wouldn’t let her make the initial call to the boy. But that’s another subject for another blog right???
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shannon
10:23 am
yes. let him call. though i’m not a professional parent. my kid is only 4 months. but doesn’t making a big deal out it only complicate the innocence of the phone call? if she’s calling him so she can “hold his hand during school hours,” that’s where the no comes in… but the phone call should be allowed i believe…
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mpt
10:27 am
Sorry Pete. I have to go with Brandi. Why start phone conversations with girls at 7? He can talk to her at school. Even if it starts out really innocent (and probably is) kids are into the boy girl thing at a much younger age then when we were young. I have seen behavior at young ages that has really shocked me. Like Brandi, I wouldn’t make a big deal of it, just a we’ll see,and hopefully he will forget about it.
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Lisa
10:35 am
Brandi also has my vote. Last year, my Joshua (then 5) told me that he wanted a little girl to be his girlfriend. I nearly flipped out. I don’t think I would let Joshua call a little girl back at this age. Not yet. They can talk at school.
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Christie
10:40 am
does he even WANT to call her? i think THAT’S the opportunity for a good conversation with Jett…whether or not he wants to talk to her and why.
i think that a supervised call back would probably be harmless, and I agree with mpt that making too big a deal out of it could be more a problem than the call itself. and you know me…i’m always up for the courteous option. but i’m with brandi on the whole idea that 7 is pretty young to be in the habit of opposite sex phone convos.
I’m really curious now about what she wants to talk about…
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ash
10:45 am
I think the key question is why did she call? Did she call just to talk? Was this in response to watching Hanna Montana and High School Musical and mimicking older kids actions? Maybe she just had a question about Jesus
or more likely, maybe she is having a birthday party of something. I know in Abbie’s first grade class she has to invite all of none of her classmates to birthday parties. If the tables were turned and I had a boy calling Abbie, I would probably let her call him back the one time to find out why he called. If it turns out that the boy wants a girlfriend…ADIOS. I am sure Katie has a different thought!!
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Jason Gordon
10:51 am
This is the comment I left on your wife’s blog:
I agree with NCarnes don’t make a big deal out of it she could be calling because they are friends, most 7 year olds know the words “boyfriend” and “girlfriend” but have no idea what it really means. Their idea of the word is way different than an adults.
I am thinking harmless as well because she might have called because of a homework assignment or something school related.
There is nothing wrong with him calling if you are there to supervise the conversation. If you don’t like what is going on then you can say not to talk on the phone with that specific girl. You let him talk to girls on the phone that you have a relationship with their parents but he is in school forming relationships on his own.
I have been reading for a bit now but have never commented but since you asked for our opinions I figured what better time to leave my first comment.
I am going to add that ultimately don’t make it a gender issue if you would allow him to talk to boys than allow him to talk to girls. I believe in monitoring children’s phone calls but not letting them make it to certain people while you do allow it to others is going to make them want to do it more or feel that they can not openly talk to you about it.
Good luck whatever you guys decide it will be fine. I suggest asking Jett what he thinks.
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kate
10:56 am
let the boy call her back!
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Brian
11:03 am
Pete, sorry man but totally with Brandi on this. They grow up fast enough. I have the perspective of having raised my kids and it is amazing at how small some decisions you make seem at the time but turn out to be turning points in your children’s lives. Some for the good and some for the bad.
We rehearse for all these big talks about sex and drugs and God and whatever but it seems to be the small decisions that can have just as much effect. The problem for me is I only saw those small decisions in hindsight and not as I was making them. I would encourage you guys to always ere on the side of caution. If either of you have an initial “funny” feeling about something. Go with that feeling.
Also, once Jett gets to talking to girls on the house phone it will be no time until he is asking for a cell phone and saying the proverbial “Well, all my friends.. blah blah blah…”) One decision seems to always lead to another.
The only reason I even dare give this advice is not from my wealth of successful child raising experiences but from my wealth of failures.
Listen, Jett will talk to more than enough girls as it is so this delay will not stunt his social growth in the least. You guys do a wonderful job with those boys. I wish I could have had you guys as an example to follow with my kids.
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Harold
11:03 am
I would let him call her back and take the calling on a case by case situation. Frequent calls at that age isn’t something I would encourage. My twins are 6 (boys) and they have never gotten or made a phone call. My older son is 12 and some of his friends are girls. He talks on the phone occasionally in a public area. He does not have a cell phone. He is not allowed to take a call or make one after 8pm. Trust me if you monitor well you will know which girls are the friends and which ones are “friends”. Good Luck – it’s good to figure out some of this stuff beforehand so you can present a united front when a situation arises. Also it’s wise to get godly counsel but only you know your family and your child. Really enjoy your blog; lots of food for thought. I enjoyed your video
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MIchelle T.
11:06 am
Being the mother of two girls (9 & 6), I agree with Brandi.
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Angela
11:15 am
@ash, good question. All though he is down playing it I can tell that he wants to call her back. I asked him what they would talk about and he said “I don’t know”.
I’m going to have to teach him the “writing things down on your hand” idea.
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Pete Wilson
11:18 am
That sounds like so many of the calls you would get in college. You always called back except for that stalker girl (remember the green present).
From my experience, Wilson’s always call back. It’s what they do. Brandi, they’ve got their dad’s DNA….even if you say, “no” you won’t be able to stop them.
Good luck and congratulations on being grandparents soon.
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kc
11:20 am
I’m with you Pete! I have an 11 year old daughter and an 8 year old son, and they do have friends of the opposite gender call occasionally. It’s called friendship, and simple respect to return a phone call. You’ve got lots of time to deal with dating, why not teach him to simply be friends with girls first? This is not a big deal. Don’t make it one and Jett won’t either.
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Patty Dolan Tervo
11:30 am
Well, in all fairness, she could actually have a reason for the phone call other than just wanting to talk. Maybe she had a question about homework or something. My girls are both under the age of 3, so it’s entirely possible I have no idea what I’m talking about, but I say let him call her back, even if it’s just to tell her that he’s not really allowed to “talk” on the phone yet.
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Nicki
11:35 am
I think I would let him call her back, but you could limit how long he could talk to her and be in the same room, to hear his end of the conversation. My daughter is 8 and she does NOT think boys have cooties. She thinks she has had a “boyfriend” since last school year. He even bought her a present home from Disney World. It is all rather innocent at this age. Are we sure they “like, like” each other, or is it a simply friendly call ?
One of the other posters is right, kids at this age hear “boyfriend” and “girlfriend”, but it does not mean alot to them, at this point.
Last year on a field trip, my daughter was telling me who this boy was and that boy, etc. One, that she thought was cute, I said yes, he is cute. One of her friends heard me and said, oh my gosh, do you want to get married to Cole ? ?
Kids are funny at this age. Jett is cute, so you can’t blame the girls. They probably would not have alot to talk about anyway. I doubt it would be an hour long call.
Christy
in Virginia
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Christy
11:36 am
@kc, It’s such a blessing to have your college roommate read your blog.
You are always able to add a little perspective.
And yes, I do remember the “green present”.
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Pete Wilson
11:36 am
Sorry dude, I’m with Brandi on this. I have 2 girls, 14 & 11. I do agree with you it’s innocent and all but man, they grow up so fast.
Having said that. I love your blog! Creative!
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Scott Harris
11:38 am
Become a millionaire by designing the first social networking tool for pre-teens. Phoning is so old school.
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Linda Stanley
11:38 am
don’t hate the player… hate the game.
a players gotta play.
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blake
11:40 am
I am kinda leaning towards Brandi on this one…just because I think she looked slammin in this video…ha ha…but for reals, I think she was right on and to tell the truth, I kinda wish my parents would have taken a more conservative approach with me and boys. I wonder if that would have alleviated some of the problems I got myself into growing up. Dang.
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kristiapplesauce
11:44 am
Actually, I agree with you, Pete. Making an issue out of this will turn it into a bigger deal than it may need to be.
Anyway, the phone is so yesterday. It’s texting that you need to worry about. [harder to control & they have it 24/7]
Our kids are smack in the middle of this [13/16, girl & boy]. Teach the values of respect for himself & girls and it won’t matter what form of technology they’ll be using when he gets older.
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Dawn Nicole Baldwin
11:46 am
Anne Jackson has a blog about this right now… how can Jett and this young lady be friends without it becoming legalistic? are the emotional and intellectual connections that they’re experiencing hazardous to their future spouses? can cooties be cured?
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ryan guard
11:48 am
Are you guys serious? If you would let him call a boy back, you should let him call this girl back. She could have been calling about homework. You dont know. This is silly, you guys. Have JEtt call her back to see what she needed.
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Deborah
11:53 am
It seems to me that you both have and are laying the foundation of Biblical principles in your home. And I think that you are both in the right and should meet somewhere in the middle. 7 is a little young. However, since times are a little different than when we were all kiddos that age girls are probably going to be calling sooner rather than later. SO…Maybe now is the time to establish some guidelines and rules??? Maybe at minimum a supervised return phone call and then go from there. Keep us posted…I need to learn about these things because my daughter is only TWO!
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stephanie
11:53 am
so this is what i wished we wouldve done with our kids. i wished we wouldve let them talk to the opposite sex on the phone at an earlier age – ONLY because – we shouldve taken that time to show them how to view them as friends and how to nurture a friendship, a healthy communicative friendship between a girl and a boy. had that been instilled in them from the beginning, it wouldnt be so “oh-no, hush, hush” now – because we know the only reason the opp. sex calls when theyre older is because there is an attraction. well, for the most part.
what im saying is – it wouldve been a great opportunity to teach our children to respect and honor the friendship and train them early on (to create a habit) that the opposite sex doesnt always have to be more than a friend.
am i making ANY sense?
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tam
12:07 pm
HeyPete,
I left a comment on Brandi’s sight about a new answering message.
You should go there to read it.
Also, while there, check out her responses– you are WAY out-numbered!
Got a feeling that by the looks of those boys and their “goodness”,
there’s gonna’ be lots more phone calls from girls in your future.
Not a prophet, I’m just sayin’…
* I’m so glad my boys are raised!
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SHerri
12:13 pm
If he doesn’t call her back, then at 7 years old he’s already that boy who doesn’t call…you can’t let him be that!
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lindsay guard
12:18 pm
Pete, I’m with Brandi…I’d have to say with 3 girls and a boy myself, the oldest girl being 8, I’d just wonder why a girl that young would need to pursue a phone conversation if they see each other in person regularly? I don’t think it’s over-analyzing to ask “Why is this girl calling Jett?” I’d ask myself what is in the best interest of the girl and if you don’t have enough info, err on the side of restraint. It may be her call is a result of what she’s seen or heard in her family, on TV or the Internet. I would choose not to encourage potential modeled older behavior in the girl or make space for idle chatter by Jett returning the call. Also, tweet Michael Hyatt since he has girls too and get him in on the conversation. God knows those of us who are raising children need wisdom from those further along the road and Michael is one of those trustworthy travelers.
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Kevin
12:21 pm
What if it’s a question about homework? Let him call her back, what harm could possibly come of it????
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Christina Schmidt
12:21 pm
Do you even know if Jett likes the girl?
When I was 7 yrs old, I found girl to be quite annoying, and the last thing I would want to do is talk on the phone with one.
It may be a case of a girl who is sweet on Jett, but he wants nothing to do with her.
I would at least ask him about her before jumping to conclusions.
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Dave Myers
12:35 pm
@Pete-
You said you were around 10 years old when you called your first girl, right?
Wasn’t your nickname in college ’31 Flavors’?
Case closed.
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Heather
12:42 pm
Since the consensus is you have to have a kid to give an opinion, I’m going to leave my idea on Brandi’s blog… because I don’t think my dog ACTUALLY qualifies as a child (regardless of how I treat him)…
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sara
12:45 pm
Pete, I think Brandi’s antennae are tingling for a reason. While it may very well be completely innocent, I echo what others have said. The concept of boyfriend/girlfriend relationships are now “necessary” even in 2nd & 3rd grades — 100 years ago when I was in school, all 7-year-old-boys were good for was kicking in the shins when they bugged us girls. Things have changed. I think, more importantly than the phone call — now might be the time to get his take on that concept. What’s he hearing around him about boys & girls? How many of his classmates have a boyfriend/girlfriend? That kind of thing. Using this time to guile him to healthy relationships, not relationships based on what others think are “right”.
My .02
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Faye
12:51 pm
a) did Jett WANT to call her back?
maybe the parents want the kids to be friends so they encouraged her to and you all just totally ditched them. what, they aren’t good enough!?
sorry I just wanted to mess with you all a little hehehehe
b) what does he say about her?
c) It’s just friendship at that age so it doesn’t have to be weird right??… they are learning from you – if you make it seem like it’s more than friends and weird… he will think the same thing….. so that’s not good.
d) she called to ask a question probably right? I can’t imagine 7 year olds would be wanting to chat and talk about life and dreams and goals and dating… I imagine she was calling for some THING, not to just shoot the breeze… no!? maybe she called everybody in her class to invite them to her house for a party. maybe she had a homework question?
e) I remember I had a boy call me when I was around that age – he invited me over to play spiderman and I went and it was fun.
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randi :)
12:55 pm
I’ve been reading Brandi’s blog and now I find Pete’s – this is great. My thought, which maybe one of the above 81 comments also shared, is on the topic of your family’s relationship with this girl’s family. You said you don’t have a relationship with them and I think that’s the perfect opportunity to reach out to the parents and have them over for dinner. Then the whole topic of the phone call never has to be discussed.
Just my thoughts.
bruce eric
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Bruce Eric Anderson (aka bruceericatdell)
12:55 pm
@heather, that was a low blow.
@bruce eric, that is a brilliant idea. We should certainly do that!
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Pete Wilson
1:01 pm
Good grief guys! She probably had a question about that math test coming up.
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David
1:02 pm
Wow, this is a hot topic.
7 is a little young to be spending time talking on the phone…wouldn’t he rather be outside blowing something up? I wouldn’t want to start the whole phone calling thing. This is why 10 year olds these days want cell phones.
And by the way, calling girls at 10 years old…that’s too young too. Why not put off all the nervousness and dating stuff for a while.
We started all of that way too early at our house. (Three girls). My sisters and I agree that we do not want our daughters to date until they are 16 or 18 or 21 or something. One of my sisters was dating at 14, that is just too young.
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cbgrace
1:08 pm
I just read the post above mine…men always ALWAYS under-estimate the manipulation of women…we always say it’s a math problem.
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cbgrace
1:09 pm
Hey…..All I can say is let him go for it! Just write the script for him. Show him how a man treats a lady! Oh, and show him this video prior, just so he is aware of the risks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6ylxWcwkUM
Peace Dude!
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Michael Robison
1:16 pm
Pete…looks like the polls have closed…and the electoral college is extremely one-sided…do we hear a concession speech on the way? Man up!
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Steve Heartsill
1:16 pm
I have read both blogs, and I have a 7 year old , there is a added point here that needs to be stated, my kido is a only child so friends are very important for us to encourage that interaction that solcialization is a big part, I work from home so he doesn’t have to go to child care, so I do allow him to call friends and friends call him, however its monitered closly I have discoverd a child that I didn’t know is home alone after school and would call me to help him with homework until a big brother or sister would get home, so it did open doors for me to get to know another family I otherwise would have never new. I also no that bigger fish are to be fried!!!! I pick and choose my conflicts with my kido some are worth there opion and others I flat say no to. but he is at a turning point where I feel he has rights as a 3rd grader and when asked his opion its amazing what they come up with! If you make it a big deal then it will be big to him ….if you down play it and let it play out I think the hang up is we over think it in this day and age insteasd of letting things happen. Prior to phones kids would run around and run in and out of each others homes, now they have the ablity to call.. who know your kido may have an opportuinty to share something she would never have been exposed too. You think Jesus’s mother liked her 12 year old preaching in the sinagog? No she prob thought he was too young … and yet he was about doing christ work!
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kel
1:18 pm
Hey Pete,
Thanks so much for fueling discussion between my wife and I! We’re sitting here, watching your blog together and now we’re playing the hypothetical game with our unborn daughter (my wife is 25 weeks pregnant).
Jenn thinks it’s totally innocent right now – but what happens when he’s 9 and his phone calls begin getting a bit more strategic.
I’m thinking I wouldn’t want my daughter calling any boys at 7 years old, but I would totally let them hang out together as kids just having fun. I think phone calls are actually a bigger deal than just being 7 year old friends!
Uh-oh…our daughter isn’t even born yet and I’m feeling like an over-protective dad!!!
Thanks!
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Brian Becker
1:21 pm
@Steve Heartsill, It does seem a bit one sided right now. However, I’m not giving up quite yet. I’m pushing an agenda of “change”.
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Pete Wilson
1:41 pm
I was 17. I still think I may have jumped the gun.
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seth
1:41 pm
An earlier commenter said something about how kids look to you to gauge their response. This is a great opportunity to teach your son that it is polite to return (or acknowledge) a phone call – even if it’s just to say “I received your message but I’m not allowed to have phone calls.”
As to whether or not he’s too young to talk to the opposite sex… that’s your call. Some kids at his age still have a lot of innocence and it’s just a call to a friend. Other kids have had more worldly influence and may be much more aware of boy/girl relationships.
I also second the dinner thing… great idea!
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andi
1:43 pm
HE SHOULD CALL HER…. friendship. He would be allowed to call a boy back. By not letting him call you are making it a bigger deal than it really is.
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anna
1:53 pm
Is she hot?
Oh wait, she’s seven…never mind…
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brent(inWorship)
2:06 pm
Jet, you playa
Got the women callin you at 7…
Sounds pretty innocent all in all…can’t imagine the harm in calling back….if it continues and appears to be out of control, then a stop gap might have to be put in place.
Remember at this age….Girls Rule and Boys Drule
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Joseph
2:10 pm
BRENT!!!!!
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tam
2:13 pm
Maybe if he is allowed to talk to her at 7, she’ll learn what a decent guy is like instead of wasting a bunch of time dating some big bruno football player before realizing what a real man is like. I don’t know what lady would do something like that, but there’s always the potential of it happening
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ncarnes
2:21 pm
So Pete – has anyone talked to Jett about this?
Maybe he has some insight into it that you guys don’t …
I feel a sermon illustration coming on.
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Steve
2:45 pm
I think it would be okay to let him call her back under supervision but you also have to take into account that I don’t have kids myself…so maybe when I do my opinion would or will change..I don’t know. But for now my opinion is its okay for him to call her back. By the way I love how you did the whole blah, blah thing. Lol. I love you and your wife’s blogs they are great.
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amy
2:49 pm
I think he should be allowed to call her back, but I think he should be required to tell her that his parents don’t want them calling each other on the phone. That way you respect him and don’t embarrass him when she asks why he didn’t call, AND you get to follow through with Mom’s wish to have him wait til he’s in double digits age wise. In our house when there’s a difference about what’s right for our boy, “Mommy says” is the Ace of Spades.
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Bill Renfrew
2:57 pm
I’m gonna say I agree with Pete~I don’t, but I feel I need to say it. There, feel better Pete?
I’d cast an honest vote but as the mom of a boy, I’m pretty sure Brandi’s gonna win this one~
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Robin
3:11 pm
@brent, I can’t believe you went there!
@ncarnes, you’re one of the smartest people I know!
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Pete Wilson
3:17 pm
OK, I have to agree with Pete and several people who have said it seems like you are blowing this phone call issue way out of proportion. I have 2 daughters (14 and 12) and at age 7 they are just NOT thinking of the boy/girl thing like adults do. My best friend in 4th grade was a boy who I am still friends with today and never “dated”. We played Tonka trucks in his sand pile and it was totally innocent. I know times are changing, but I agree that you’re making a big deal out of it is the only reason it is a big deal.
I would teach him to politely call her back, with parental supervision, and find out why she was calling before any assumptions are drawn. I agree with the thought that you should treat this call as you would a call from a boy his age. If it truly was just because she wanted to chat then I would have him tell her he is not allowed to chat on the phone yet but that he will see her at school. This is a time when you are helping him form his views of interpersonal relationships and I think you should let him know people are people and to treat everyone with respect while following whatever rules you two establish in terms of his phone use. Don’t lead him to think there is something inherently wrong with boys and girls being friendly at his young age!!
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Laura
3:40 pm
Okay, what about you or Brandi calling the little girl back to see what she wants? Nothing like putting a stop to things when a parent responds.
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Cindy
3:51 pm
I vote he calls her back to be polite but ya’ll just tell him to call to be polite but that it’s still kinda early to call people a lot and talk for long amounts of time. It’s better to play with them on the playground or at birthday parties.
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Jody
3:56 pm
Let him call. They’re 7. Maybe you guys should invite her family over for dinner? (not sure about that)?
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Loran
3:58 pm
Hi, bringing some perspective from ‘the other side of the pond’.
I think you shouldn’t make a big deal out of it, because if you like ban him from calling her or something he’ll probably want to even more when he maybe wasn’t that bothered in the first place (or is that just what me and my siblings were like?!)
I had loads of friends who are guys (as well as friends who are girls) from when I was a baby really. Can’t remember talking to them on the phone at that age unless it was for a specific purpose like inviting someone to a birthday party/trip with family to the zoo or similar?
Brandi, you know your son, and you have what I call the ‘mother radar’. Go with your instincts. You don’t want him to grow up so fast, and kids do so far too easily these days I reckon…
Pete, support your wife in her mom instincts (and notice my Americanism there!)
PS as an afterthought/curiosity…if you don’t know this family, how did they get your number to call Jett?
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brunettekoala
4:26 pm
Hey guys… My name is Jeremiah, and I am a pastor in Minneapolis, MN who checks in on your blog once in a while… just wanted to tell you the crazy rules that I grew up with… and you can see what you think from there…
I wasn’t allowed to date any girls until I was 16, but before I could date any other girls, I had to date my mom 4 times. Each date had to be different, and I had to ask her on the date, plan it, and pay for it. She would make me open the car door for her and everything… which really sucked when I was 16…
NOW… when I went on my first date with my now wife of 9 years, I went to open the car door for her, and so she walked to the other side of the car and got in to start driving, leaving me standing with an open car door. No one had ever opened the car door for her, which put me way ahead of the game. Not so stupid anymore! Thanks MOM!!!
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Jeremiah Curran
4:33 pm
Sorry I can’t offer advice, but I have to say you have me nervous. I have an almost 2 year old and I never would have thought in a few years I’d have to be making decisions like this. Isn’t this supposed to be happening when they are pre-teen/teenagers. Yikes! I guess I better start thinking about our game plan for our son.
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Kim
4:53 pm
If I was a cheer squad, right now I’d be chanting, “Go mom! Go Mom! Go Mom!” Sorry dad. I’m with mama on this one.
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roxanne kristina
5:37 pm
@Jeremiah – Jeez, where can I find a guy like you? lol That was a very cool idea by your parents!!
My first question is, how did she get your number in the first place?? I realize it would be in a phonebook … but at 7? Knowing Jett’s parents’ names and then looking it up in the phonebook? IMO, not a normal thing for a 7 year old … so either her parents helped her, which means they approve of her calling, or Jett gave her his number!
At any rate, my gut instinct is telling me to side with Brandi on this one. I don’t have kids yet, but I have plenty of nieces and nephews – and would hate the thought of them being able to call girls at such a young age. Someone brought up the point of the difference between it being a girl vs. a boy calling. The fact of the matter is, these days it IS important to start making that distinction even at such a young age. I wish it didn’t have to be that way, but with the times how they are, it is!
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Sarah Joy
6:13 pm
I was definitely in the middle school. I can’t imagine calling the opposite sex in Elementary school. They see each other at school. Now if it is during Summer break and they want to talk I would facilitate through the other parent to make sure it is okay.
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Debbie Elder
7:16 pm
Now that I saw the video I think Jett should call her back because she initiated it. I wouldn’t want him to inititate a phone call at this age. I would hate for her to get insecure or feel rejected as a freind for Jett not to call her back. Maybe you facilitate between Jett and the girl via her parents.
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Debbie Elder
7:23 pm
Well I agree with New York Mary. I have a 7yr boy. at this age they don’t think about it being a girl thing its just a friend. My son has a friend Katie they have been in the same class since 2nd grade. She called the other day to talk to him. later when I asked what they talked about he said ‘ I don’t remember’ I think I would be more worried when they are 10 -12.
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Heather2
7:47 pm
I’m taking lots of notes on this!!
I do agree with Brandi as well…BUT, it should be addressed immediately with her/parents so that it doesn’t appear rude when Jett doesn’t return her call thus getting her feelings hurt.
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Paula
8:06 pm
PS – I had a friend who was a boy in the 1st grade – we were 6 – and he would call me to talk… we talked about the Flinstones – it was our favorite cartoon! On Mondays, we often discussed the events of the Smurfs that we had seen over the weekend…
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Paula
8:08 pm
I don’t even know why you debated this one! Seven is way too young. And if you didn’t know by now, mom’s are always right (especially when it comes to our son’s).
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Cyndi
10:02 pm
Speaking from experience (had my first boyfriend at age 6), I’d allow him to call her back under supervision – after having that “teachable moment” talk first.
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Vicki
11:43 pm
Pete, for the love of all that’s good and right in the world. Don’t you let that sweet boy of yours call her back. You say it was sweet and innocent and I am here to tell you that I am a woman and I heard her intent. I heard that voice on the machine and watched you and the Mrs. discuss the whole thing. (The Mrs. is even more beautiful on film, if I do say so myself.) Seriously, she is out for your boy. Don’t you do it. Don’t, don’t, don’t!
And scene.
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Cindy Beall
11:56 pm
This is definitely a teachable moment. You are probably teaching him to treat others the way he wants to be treated…
Him calling the girl is just being polite. Last time I checked being polite is appropriate at 7 or 70!
As long as he’s not staying up late talking to her: “you hang up” …. “no YOU hang up!” …. “you hang up!” … “ready … 1…2…3.” – I think a supervised return call will be OK.
http://www.teachpoliteness.com/oktocallback
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D.Lake
12:35 am
Golly, that’s a tough one! I can totally see both sides of it. My son’s best friend is a girl and we have allowed them to talk on the phone before, but it’s not something that happens very often. The great thing at the age of 7 is that it’s just innocent and sweet.
Good luck, Pete and Brandi!
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Jenny
1:11 am
I have looked at this several times today …at first I thought it was cute, then as I read all the posts of folks going wacko over this I typed and deleted and typed and deleted…so I am going to just say, you are great parents, but it a long ride, keep things in perspective and let the child be an example of the polite, well raised child that he is and call the little girl back. By the way, I looked for Giant Idiot’s words of wisdom but haven’t seen anything from him since the election…has he gone into mourning…..I miss him so!
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Celeste
3:36 am
He should call her back. It is never to early to start learning how to have healthy relationships with people. all people. I think it sets up the idea that girls are something to be thought of in a dating or lustful manner when we “prevent” friendships to form. I have never ever liked the idea of people asking a small child, say 7, if they have a girlfriend or boyfriend because as Brandi says, they are to young to even be thinking in those terms. But my children have always played with both boys and girls and I think they have very healthy attitudes about people. My boys cook and my girls help cut down trees. They understand gender differences, but are not tied to the thinking that boys and girls can’t be friends. Of course as we get older and get married, there becomes more appropriate ways to have relationships with the opposite sex. I, for example, would not let my husband go to dinner and a movie with another woman and even at age 7, I would not allow opposite sex sleep overs, but phone calls and hanging out is peach keen with me. I am not a big fan of parenting out of fear. Unless you see some red flags as to why the two should not be friends, then I say it is perfectly healthy and fine for them to call one another. Having said that, parenting is hard and all of our kids are different. I may not always make the right choice with my kids, but I always make the one I believe in in their best interest and out of love and even if my kids disagree with me, they know I am truly doing what I believe is best. Brandi, especially as the mother, knows her son and knows how things “might” develop, so I might just trust her on this one. Shelby
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Shelby
7:43 am
@Celeste, don’t worry. Giantidiot, will climb out of his whole soon!
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Pete Wilson
8:00 am
Poor Girl….probably just checking on a school reading assignment or something. And she had such good phone manners. If the phone calling became a habit…you could deal with it then. Mother of three boys 8, 12, 14 and one girl 10 says.. call her back….it’s good manners!
boys in general are not to interested in the phone anyway .. it will pass… hey just be grateful that your 12 year old didn’t just go over his text limit by 1,000 text!
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Carol
3:56 pm
I read Brandi’s blog first and it seemed so low key that I didn’t feel compelled to post a reply. Posting the video doesn’t make the subject more controversial, but I would like to add my two cents now. I am a grandmother: just to give you an idea of my perspective. I don’t have all the answers but I do know that I don’t like the way the media/society encourages kids to become little adults from the clothes they wear to having boy/girlfriends and coed sleepovers. Kindergarten graduates are cute, I admit, but what do kids have to look forward to anymore? I think parents needs to be careful to shield their children from this kind of pressure/influence. At this point in their lives, I think Brandi probably has the best instincts about how to deal with things like this. When the boys are older, Pete will probably be to go-to. Nothing beats the parents working it out together.
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Gloria
3:28 pm
(Wait till their 12 – then all they do is TEXT the girl – about 400 times a day. At least he practices his spelling at the same time
)
I say – Brandi’s “we’ll see” is perfect. Then play it by ear, to see how important it is to him in the next few days.
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Kristie
9:28 am
My Son will be 7 in March and I’d have a breakdown if a girl called my house
!
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Emily
11:50 am
Hmm… not sure what 7-year-olds would have to say in a phone conversation that would warrant even being permitted to make the call, let alone return it. Then again, when I was that age, I hated talking on the phone, period. My parents had to make me get on the phone to thank family members for gifts ‘n’ such.
Now… if she’s sayin’ “Hey, we missed you in Sunday School,” that’s cool. We encourage kids to make those outreach calls.
Otherwise… they can talk when they see each other at school and whatnot. Or arrange a play date for a group of kids (both boys and girls) and include this little gal.
I figure kids really ought to have too much other stuff to do than sit and yak on the phone (computer, via text, whatever).
I like the suggestion of waiting till kids are 12 or 13. Sounds about right for emotional maturity.
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Elena
2:48 pm
I’m pretty sure I read all the responses….and am I seriously the ONLY ONE who wonders HOW this little girl got your phone number in the first place?? lol!!
“We’ll see” is great. 7 is waaaaaay too young for girlfriend/boyfriend but if you make a big deal of it, will he then wonder WHY it is such a big deal? I’m on the fence. Story of my life. lol!
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Cheri Pryor
5:57 am
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