Should Christians Get Cosmetic Surgery?
It seems like cosmetic surgery is all the rage these days. More and more of my friends have had some sort of procedure done. No worries, I’m not mentioning any names.
Nearly 11.7 million cosmetic surgical and nonsurgical procedures were performed in the United States in 2007, according to statistics released earlier this year by the American Society for Aesthetic Plastic surgery. The Aesthetic Society, which has been collecting statistics since 1997 says the overall number of cosmetic procedures has increased 457 percent since the collection of the statistics began. The most frequently performed procedure was Botox injections, and the most popular surgical procedure was liposuction. And don’t think this is just about women. Men make up about 14 percent of the patients.
I want to make it clear that I am in no way judging ANYONE. I just want to share a broad overarching concern. It seems as a society we have perpetuated a corrupted vision of beauty. This skewed vision of beauty is so prevalent that some individuals have procedure after procedure, striving to attain perfected beauty. And yet the Bible so clearly stresses the value of inner beauty and the passing nature of all physical beauty.
I can’t believe I’m about to open up this can of worms, but do you think Christians should seek cosmetic surgery?
Of course! Beauty will help them breed up the next generation of Christians. Something has to be done to offset the growing apostasy rate in the US.
I think this question is interesting due to the facts of the post yesterday on the happiness ratings. My body image is something that I struggle with and honestly some days I let that influence my Joy meter. I hate that. I know the only thing that matters is my heart (because God says so) yet I still struggle with this. And I have thought many times about what I would have sucked,tightened, removed or replaced if I ever won the lottery. I am ashamed to say!! You can do all you want to the outside with modern medical advancements but God is the only one who can fix your heart!!
What a great tongue-in-cheek comment! I can hear the snicker that goes with it …
Plastic surgery is wonderful for those who may have a disfigurement. It brings ‘normalcy’ to their daily life. However, when plastic surgery is sought to upgrade someone’s outward appearance I believe the focus is wrong. God looks on the heart – not the outward appearance. I believe all our energies should be applied to becoming more like Christ. It’s all about Him (regardless of “ME bubble” focus.
My wife and I just had this conversation last night. On the local news yesterday, they ran a story where women could submit photos of their chests and then people would donate money for them to get breast augmentation surgery and when the amount theat they needed was reached, the website would send the money to the doctor of the person’s choice. We were both of the opinion that procedures that were to correct birth defects such as a cleft pallete etc. or to improve quality of life like a body lift after extreme weight loss were ok as the root issue most likely isn’t vanity. One of the ladies that was interviewd for the story was a mother of a few children. The breast feeding process left her unbalanced with an a on one side and a c on the other so I didn’t really have an issue with her reasons for surgery either although I don’t believe using the website where you submit pictures for people to look at and then give you money is the way to go about it.
i think, as with anything, should be viewed through the lens of scripture and prayer…that sounds really good goody, but i don’t think the bible restricts it in anyway. should you carefully consider the motivation of your heart and see how that matches up with scripture, absolutely. but i do think it’s one of those gray areas that there is no “law” against doing it.
We talked about in on DV a while ago: http://www.deadlyviper.org/blog/?p=102
I think it has to do with what most things come down in our Christian life, the condition of your heart.
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I think it depends on the situation. I have pondered breast augmentation b/c I’m only 35 and I’ve breastfed 2 kids (hoping for a 3rd soon) and my breasts are shot. Same reason I have pondered lipo and a tummy tuck. So my clothes fit. I’m small, however my saggy tummy gets in the way. I exercise and eat a healthy diet. So I don’t know. To look better, yes, to feel better, yes, to attract outside attention, NO. I don’t feel sexy most of the time. Even when I’m a size 4. I wonder sometimes if getting rid of the excess skin and perkin’ up the boobs would make me feel better, thus enhancing my self-image, thus making me more willing to have a fantastic sex life w/my husband. Maybe? Maybe not? I just don’t know. I think the thing that stops me is the risk of major surgery. I sure as heck don’t want to die because of vanity. Ya know? That’s really all that keeps me from planning to have it done.
Heidi Reed
Ditto. I am sooo in agreement with you as i have the same issues and same train of thought. It ALWAYS leads to the same conclusion: Do I want to risk surgery/death for vanity? Not really! There is a bible study by J. Rothschild, Me Myself and Lies that I recommnend for the self talk saying “Most of the time i don’t feel sexy” etc. My husband still says I’m hot to him even though i feel less than sexy since birth of kid(s) and external bodily changes. I don’t want to believe the lies of The Enemy with bad self talk–”You’re not pretty anymore-you’re not attractive to your husband” etc. especially when he affirms me. Yet, i still have to “take the thoughts captive to Christ” on a regular basis. Lisa
OH boy, Pete, can’t believe you went there. I love it. I worked for a Plastic Surgeoun for over 2 years, and I can say that numerous men and women are seeking outward perfection and they believe it will improve their life. I can’t get on board with that. But I can honestly say, aside from obvious needs for plastic surgery, there are many women who want something minor done, to make themselves feel better about themselves…and so that they can be more “free” with their husbands. I even knew several Christian women who had “enhancements” and said it changed their marriages for the better….NOT because of the husbands, but because the wives just felt prettier. It’s basically what Heidi Reed said. I’m with her 100%. I would do it for me, and for my husband…..but not to catch attention from anyone else. Haven’t done it yet…..but I might.
I’m glad to read this because I have had the argument back and forth with myself: If my husband constantly says he loves me the way i am, yet i feel less than sexy because of my body image to myself, i KNOW it would benefit my confidence and therefore improve both of our sex lives-yet as i said to another post, Do I really want to risk the major surgery (death, coma, poor results, reaction to silicone implants) when i could spiritually battle it out and take the thoughts captive to Christ. Ultimaltly, my poor self image reminds me of the Apostle Paul asking God to remove his “thorn in the flesh”. Even though we don’t know what his thorn was, God’s answer, “My grace is sufficient for you.” I also get the “guilt trip” of things like,”you want to spend how much money on an external “alteration” when there are children who cannot afford cleft palate surgery, or other disfigurments? Send the money to missionaries to help them instead of yourself, you selfish, vain woman (speaking of myself here, of course). Does anyone else deal with those issues. Lisa
i would say that there are cases in which it makes sense to me…say for medical necessity.
i think the main concern would be whether or not the individual is being a good steward of their body/mind/finances…and that is between them and God…not me!
I have recently done a lesson with the youth girls at my church about beauty and how society views us and how God views us. Just as you stated I am by no meands judging but I am seeing that this is a very big concern that I have for many females and some males. This issue is very life threatening and I would like for everyone to know that God created us in His image. Genesis1:26 Yes there are things that we do to our bodies that distorts that image but there are things that we can do to bring that image back. This is some thing that God has laid on my heart to share with many females in that our beauty was made by God and was made in His image, when we are called ugly and many other names people are calling God’s creation this and it bothers me. I would love to share more with you about the vision God has given me. For all of you who are reading this, God loves you and He thinks you are beautiful just the way you are, He knew what He was doing when he created you.
Depends on the situation, the person, the problem, the emotional effects. Unfortunately, the “world” does judge us by our outward appearances and so goes it with work place image, etc. etc. etc. Most people would like to be the best they can be both inwardly and outwardly. For that matter, should women dye their hair to look younger? Should women wear makeup? Should women wear perfume? Should men get hair plugs? Should men wear “a rug”? Should anyone have braces or dental implants? Should people have tatoos? People could argue those things as cosmetic. I believe it is all a matter of personal choice and whether or not you’ve had any of this done does not mean you are not a Christian. I could never inject my face with Botox for fear I’d end up with some freakish result or horrible health side effect – even though I really don’t like the number 11 thing that’s happening between my eyes or lines on my forehead that rival the Nazca Lines in Peru. As for “should Christians have plastic surgery” question. That’s up to the Christian.
As our culture focuses more and more on physical perfection, I’ve found myself getting more concerned about my looks beyond what’s healthy. When I do this, I usually find that this is because my core thoughts have also become healthy. Greed: I want others’ attention and affirmation, whatever it costs. Pride: Deep down, I want to be thought better than others, to have the advantage. Insecurity: I don’t think I’m worth much unless I’m beautiful. Jesus said, “As a person thinks in his heart so is he.” Every day, followers of Christ need to be scraping away the world’s thoughts, and
The desire for cosmetic surgery that goes beyond correcting birth defects or deformities should be checked against what’s going on in our hearts. When I remember who I am in Christ: loved unconditionally, clean and pure because of Him, then the wrong emphasis on looks fades. Freedom in Christ ministries (ficm.org) has a great page on their website called “Who I am in Christ.” I turn there often to retune my thoughts and find the freedom it brings from cultural pressures. The freedom is infectious and encourages others to find it.
Thank you for appreciating my humor – or at least silently tolerating it. OK, now for a non-snarky comment:
Cosmetic surgery per se and Christian beliefs have nothing to do with each other. The reason a person wants to modify themselves may well have something to do with their theology.
If it is solely a matter of vanity or covetousness, then it is a desire that a Christian should avoid. If such vanity or covetousness is not the main cause of the person’s desire for bodily alteration via surgery, then I can find no theological grounds for complaint.
Of course the same could be said for diet and exercise, cosmetics, clothing choices, wealth accumulation, etc… I don’t think the “what” is as important the “why.”
Pete, Pete, Pete. You do like to ‘push the envelope’, eh?
One of my girlfriends, who is more like my sister, wants to have a tummy tuck. She is 5’7 and wears a size 12 (I know that means nothing to you Pete, cuz your a boy), but she only wears a size 12 because of her stomach. For some reason, when she had her 3 children, her stomach never ‘snapped’ back. She can do hours and hours of sit ups, Pilates, whatever. Nothing helps. I feel bad for her. I totally get why she wants to have the surgery. On the other hand….why does it really matter?
The truth is this: Most of us, especially women, view our bodies through the eyes of the world, not the eyes of God. Until we begin to view ourselves through His eyes, there will always be something wrong.
Um…my ‘sister’ would kill me. She is 37….NOT 57!
Ask Jan Crouch
I wonder how many starving children our country could feed with the money spent on plastic surgery?
I think that way, too. Except for one case. My sister’s daughter has a congenital condition called amastia. She was born with nipples only. At age 18, she was exactly the same as at age 10. She has no mammary glands nor fatty tissue, yet she has reached puberty. She will never be able to breastfeed her future children due to this condition. It also affects her self image as you can imagine. She recently had breast augmentation (insurance still would not pay for it–i wonder if a boy has micropenis if they’d pay for that alteration!?) and she feels so much better and self confident now. Clothes fit her in her size, she can go swimming in a bathing suit and not feel self conscience anymore. Yes, God made her that way, and no, she was not happy with God’s way of making her-she chose a modern medical way to alter her physical appearance so she could put an end to the mental anguish it caused her. So be it. I don’t blame her! Lisa
Plastic Surgery…how about in “moderation”, that’s a word we like huh?
My sister is a mother of 2 with the chest of a 12 year old boy, and if anyone deserves really good boobs, it is her. Now I know many people who just read that are thinking…”why does she need an enhancement to feel better about herself” or “thats just what this world wants her to think, boobs = beauty.” Yes, plastic surgery is a big step but when thinking about vanity so many other things come to mind…clothing, jewelry, makeup, tattoos etc. This is just another step, granted a bigger more dangerous step, but another step nonetheless.
To Jonolan: Very, very well put.
To add one thing I guess I implied and left off. In agreeing with “jonolan,” it’s in the “why”
I think the most beautiful woman I’ve ever seen is Mother Teresa. I rest my case.
Oops. Signed in with my other username. That last comment was mine.
If gray hair is a crown of glory, as Proverbs 16:31 says it is, I think my wrinkles are too and I am wearing them with a smile.
As with virtually every issue in Scripture and in life, the “Why?” is always what Jesus emphasized. I have found that most needs boil down to one of two CORE needs: Intimacy and Significance. All other needs are rooted in these. God has ways for these to be fulfilled, but they run counter to our world’s ways: Intimacy is either through Worship or Sex; Significance is through the Cross or the Accumulation of Stuff (money, things, beauty, degrees, position). So, you have to ask yourself, what Core Need am I trying to fill, and how am I trying to fill it? As appealing as the world’s offers are, they will always leave us wanting. Only Christ can bring the Intimacy & Significance we long for…and EVERYONE longs for these things. It has been well said, “All the world wants to be a Christian, they just don’t know yet that’s what you call it.” P.S. A proper relationship with our spouses and/or others (Christ-centered) can go a long ways towards fulfillment of these needs also, because when we seek to honor Him first, we honor/value/esteem others…always.
some christians need plastic surgery.
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As in most things; depends on the heart/motivation. I don’t like blanket statements one way or the other on things which Scripture does not address. If it is (im)purely vanity; wrong. If it is for cosmetic reasons, why not? Not totally unlike dental work. Anyway, that’s my two cents; proving again that one gets what one pays for. Appreciate your willingness to open cans of worms that make us think.
I used to be adamantly opposed unless in the case of medical necessity. But watching the country music awards the other night I realized there’s at least one icon of country music that probably added more than a few years to her career…just by having cosmetic surgery! I found it hard to fault her when it’s you and I, the listeners, demanding that our recording artists look like Barbie and Ken.
The more I thought about it the less difference I could see in what she did and what Tiger Woods just did by having knee surgery to prolong his career. I may have put a bulls eye on my back with that one, but when it comes down to it what’s the difference in the two?
As to the state of the heart in either case, I’ll let God sort that out. Not in my job description.
That’s what i concluded with my sister’s kid who has amstia. Lisa
I am with Laura, feed the kids first.
I think it’s up to the individual, I pray that they went before God and asked deeply within themselves why? Would I do it no, Do I need it maybe, but I am happy within myself and the outside I leave alone and that’s my choice. I agree with Anne J. it’s a gray area.
In nature, “attractiveness” helps attract mates and propagate the species, whether its flowers, dingos or chimps. It is probably an evolutionary trait for us to look for ways to make ourselves more attractive. It is probably a modern human trait to choose a route that doesn’t require actual self-care.
I’m just kidding. I don’t know what I’m talking about.
@ Bill
I think that mobility is far different that vanity. Sure, pretty people who sing great sell al lot of records but if it were a seasoned artist that I loved I wouldn’t care. I think the two are very different. Tiger is young and has a young child who he will chase and even want to play golf with one day.
Why is that every time we start talking about spending money, we have to hear about kids starving somewhere? There will always be someone starving somewhere. Does that mean I’m never supposed to have anything?
Please don’t think I’m being mean. I’m really not. I just hear that alot and I guess I disagree with it. I may have a neighbor that is starving and just bought him some groceries yesterday…or given him a ride or babysat, or whatever…
I don’t see anything wrong with plastic surgery (have never had any). Even if you don’t need it. As long as you don’t place your self worth it in. Just like alot of the ladies said, some have had kids and a tummy tuck or lipo is not NEEDED, but it would help them feel sexy again. There’s nothing wrong with feeling good about yourself…IN the right perspective.
I hope I didn’t come off as harsh. Wasn’t my intent. Just wanted to bring up an unpopular view…lol
I see nothing wrong with plactic surgery in and of itself. The motives for the surgery are where problems may lie. I think it is ok to have the surgery if you just want to look better. We wear certain clothes because we think they make us look better and we usually spend more money for the clothes that make us look the best. Now if vanity or insecurities are out motivation all the clothes and surgery in the world won’t fix our ills.
I have always counseled folks that you have to be able to live with yourself, before you can live (successfully) with anyone else. I think it applies here as well. All the surgery in the world will not make a person happy, if they aren’t content with themselves and the Lord, to begin with. That being said, if a person approaches cosmetic surgery with the right attitude, respect and financial stewardship then it can be beneficial.
As far as feeding the children, I feel that benevolence and missions are imperative for individual Christian’s not just churches. But I will stop short of judging someone else’s stewardship. Who’s to say that a person having an SUV or larger home than necessary or coffee everyday at _____________ coffee shop isn’t poor stewardship. I think I had better get the plank out of my own eye first …
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Marla (and Rachel),
Should we always assume vanity is the motive when someone has cosmetic surgery? Maybe. Tiger is young, you’re right. How about Arnie Palmer then? I’m not trying to be argumentative. I was just wondering if it’s possible that an artist, who’s livelyhood very much depends on their personal appearance, could be having surgery to ‘improve their mobility’ in the industry, and not have vanity be an issue. Vanity may very well be an issue in the majority of cases, but maybe not in every case perhaps? Or is it a foregone that we can rest in, that people who do that are vain? Not sure I’m comfortable making that assumption, but that doesn’t mean I’m right or your wrong. I’m just exploring the issue a little.
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Rachel…I tend to agree. Sometimes I wonder how many hungry kids I could feed with the amount I spend every month on my cable/internet services….so, among other things, I can post here and make my personal opinions known around the world. ;>)
Did you see that guy on MTV that got calf implants? He had already done his chest and his butt. Common, Pete….calf implants don’t count, right?
Hard one to answer. Again as many have said…there are medical reasons to have it done. Also…I watch Jon and Kate plus 8..she had a tummy thing done after have 8 kids…it was needed. I’ve had surgery of the plastic type in the past…it wasn’t my choice but my parent’s decision. I was never happy with that decision but under age so I wasn’t really given a choice. It was done for the wrong reasons. I have a ton of nasty scares to show for it…or not to show! Anyways…I figure God made us each special and just how He wants us to be. Who am I to mess with God’s design? I know there are cases when health it at risk, etc. I understand that. I guess each area is to be prayed about and you have to know God’s thoughts on it. It’s not forbidden or the 11th commandment! Hmmm…lots of different angles to think about!
@ Bill, I think to say that all cosmetic surgery is for vanity is a farce. We agree on that. I guess that’s how it sounded in my response. I think we have similar views just being stated differently. I suppose if I were a musician I would feel like that I need to keep up with all of the Carrie Underwoods out there. Which raises a question –Do you all think that “pretty” people get treated “better”? Does “pretty” always get your foot in the door? I think society absolutely portrays that!
HA! Great questions. I think as long has you have your heart right and you feel good about yourself inside, it is fine to get plastic surgery.
There’s nothing wrong with wanting to look your best. We should want to stay in shape and look our best. Should Christian women wear make up in that case?
Good point. I’ve had nine children and have been in the sun way too much. I work out, but when I had my eyes done, I just felt better. period. Sometimes, just looking better helps us forget about ourselves. Maybe I am vain. I hope not.
testing, testing, one, two, three…
So I read a few comments — about half of them. I want to gently remind everyone of the responses Pete got regarding the “men looking at women’s bodies” post a few days ago. Remember the comments on there? Remember the honest brutality of how they DO look and they have to TRY not to look. Tell me this… and be honest guys… would you rather LOOK at a woman built like Pam Anderson or one built like Oprah? How about this. Would you rather look at one dressed and styled like Ellen Degeneres or one dressed and styled like Charlize Theron?
Did I make my point? Yes, I think I did.
Stop the Christianese and be honest. Sheesh!
heidi reed
OH MY!!! Well, for any of you who know me, you know my answer is “If and when I win the lottery (and I will one day) I will get all the plastic surgery I can!!!!!!!!!! My heart is in the right place and I’m pretty proud to say I’m as vain as they come! Nothing wrong with a woman wanting to look and feel as good as she can and if the surgery does it for ya, you GO GIRL!! Just like being tatted up, people do that for their own reasons, just like wearing make-up, wearing pretty clothes, WHATEVER makes you feel better about yourself- but alas, I have NO $$$$$$, so my vanity will stay in my mirror— for now!
While I agree with your premise that plastaic surgery has been warped by western media to reflect glamour, sex appeal, perfection, etc…I really think that it truly depends on ones personal relationship with God or motive.
While I undertsand shows like Dr. 90210 may show the ‘fake’ people of the world, more interested in sex appeal, breast augmentation, nose jobs, tummy tucks etc. more for personal pride and sexual attratcion, this is where the line may get a little blurry and dangerous.
However, if a person has a birth defect or birth mark or some other ‘flaw’ that effects their self-esteem, may cause depression, or perhaps hold them back in society, then I see no problem in Christians getting plastic surgery.
The danger comes in striving for perfection, or addiction to surgery. If the procedures and the vanity are the consuming factor, that those have replaced God and have become ‘gods’ or ‘idols’ unto themselves…no different from those who love money or power.
I think God has given these surgeons a great gift. He has given them manual dexterity, brains, a skill hand and eye to ‘help’ those who really need it. Plastic surgeons help burn victims cope, help women with masectomies (sp?) to re-intergrate into their lives, help those with disfigurments ables to possible find love or a even a job. Used for the ‘right’ purposes….why not?
i love, love, love this discussion!
My answer is NOBODY should get cosmetic surgery! LOL! On a message board I used to frequent, you could count on a new topic being posted daily, by someone…”Should Christians ______________”.
We are sin happy – we are so quick to label things that we have a personal distaste for as “sin” rather than just say “Well, it’s not my cup of tea, but if you like it…”
Some people say multiple piercings is a sin, yet they have “multiple” piercings – one in each ear. Or, where does the bible say it’s okay to pierce your ears, but piercing your nose or lip is sinful?
Nope, we’re not supposed to mutilate our bodies (let’s remember what the context is for that particular command) but to someone, the “mutilation” of cosmetic surgery is no more sinful than wearing makeup, getting a manicure, and dying your hair a different shade…it’s just a bit more complicated and a lot more expensive.
My question is: should Christians continue to look for more sins, in order to keep the attention away from their own infractions and shortcomings?
It’s no more sinful, in my opinion, to have cosmetic surgery than it is to be overweight due to poor diet and lack of exercise…
I think cosmetic surgery is pointless vanity if it is merely because someone thinks their nose is too big or their lips are not plump enough or (insert any trendy physical fashion statement of the day).
However, if it is cosmetic surgery to fix a true physical defect then sure, go ahead!
I say to each his own, but examine your heart before you commit. I admit that I am more sympathetic to the usage of light makeup and what not moreso than I am to many plastic surgeries. I understand that in some cases plastic surgery = normal life. My wife even told me a story of a girl she new at her old church that was a natural A cup and D cup and ended up getting one enlarged and one reduced because it was making her life very difficult.
on the flip side it blows my mind when beautiful, but small breasted women go out and get enlargements. I understand that it can be done modestly, but the bulk of the women I’ve seen do this go too large (i.e. from a natural B cup to a really fake looking DD), or just want something else to flaunt around for men (whether in general or just their significant other).
imo, it’s not an issue so much of “should we or shouldn’t we?” but more of “what the heck is WRONG with people?” christian or not, i’m sick of the idea that i need surgery to be acceptable getting shoved down my throat. i have no problem with people who choose cosmetic surgery, but i do have a problem with the industry encouraging and capitalizing on people’s poor self-image.
To: Rachel
I realize that the “starving children” comment is a popular one, but I actually was sincere about the statement. I have two friends who have had breast enhancement surgery and both of them regret it. What if we realized that spending thousands of dollars feeding/clothing/educating a child (organizations such as Compassion International) instead of spending it on cosmetic surgery might just make us happier than having big boobs?
I think there is something wrong in a Christian getting a cosmetic surgery, it costs a lot of money. Look what’s inside of your heart before you commit to anything like that. God loves you for who you are, why change your looks?
@Karen: I think you should tell us what you really think
I suspected we agreed more than disagreed. But I do think it’s more the record buying public than the musicians that are “keeping up with all of the Carrie Underwoods out there”. Hey, it’s the musicians that are complaining the loudest that it’s not fair! After all, what are my chances if I have to look as good as Carrie and/or be going through puberty if I wanna get a record company to even look at me? (that’s why I’m a songwriter…looks and youth aren’t a requirement. If you don’t beleive me, just go to the Bluebird). Is it the record complanies fault? Absolutely not. If goofy looking artists sold more records goofy looking artists is what they’d be cranking out. But that’s not the case and it sure does%’t w*rk in my fa@or being #)^3* years old. (I’ve been having some computer problems…some of this mig&t loo& a l!ttl@ mes*ed up) I’ll admit it every day of the week: I like that Carrie Underweood looks like she does. It makes her more interesting, or at least more compelling as an entertainer since she’s also such a great singer. It’s facinating that someone that sings that well is also that daggone pretty. SO, YES, I DO think that “pretty” people get treated “better” After all, the better looking presidentential candidate has won something like 90% of the time, and that’s something that’s actually important! 8>0 SO, that said, can you blame an artist who wants to eek a couple few more years out of his or her career if, like it or not, that’s what it actually takes to sell records? Is that vanity? Or could that just be a good business decision not unlike mom and pop buying a new neon sign for the hardware store to more aggressively compete with Lowe’s? I do remind you that I believe much of the cosmetic surgery craze is based on issues around vanity…I’m just saying maybe not all of it and generalizations may not always apply. But I certainly see your point and it’s well taken.
With much respect,
b
sorry that was so long…shouldn’ta got me started…
This is a fabulous convo!! I love this blog. My view are that I don’t particularly think that plastic surgery (or tattoos for that matter) are a “sin”…but are they beneficial or are they necessary or God glorifying in my daily walk? Nope…probably not. To the questions about feeding starving kids in Africa…um yeah, I live in South Africa and we do just that. If you want to know how much it costs…exactly $.06 a meal per day per kid for the soup kitchens. BUT PEOPLE ARE TOO STINGY TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT EVEN. So whatever. You gotta do what you gotta do. If God is leading you to get botox or a face lift or bigger/smaller boobs, I really don’t care. But Pa-leese don’t use the kids as a reason for or against it….because we all know the majority of people don’t give, they just talk about it…just sayin.
Only on Without Wax could you find the words: Breast Augmentation and Starving Children in the same sentence:)
So true Heather!
Bill if you had compared cosmetic surgery to baseball players taking steroids *cough-Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens-cough* then I could understand your point. I just do not see how Tiger having a necessary operation is the same as someone getting a nip, tuck, suck, botox, or inflated chest which is voluntary.
It’s quite an interesting question to ask. I’m regularly challenged for my view on this – which is that as long as it’s not an obsession or a means of ‘fixing’ a much deeper self esteem issue, go for it. Honestly, I think pre-op pysch consults should be much more extensive as to eliminate candidates that should actually be working through their mental issues rather than attempting to fix them by going under a physical knife. I’ve heard it a thousand times – stop trying to treat a symptom, cure the illness.
But, if you’re mentally & spiritually healthy & merely want to alter your appearance… why not? I’m looking forward to tattoos & piercings over the next few years. Some Christians would say I’m “destroying” or “desecrating” my “temple”. I don’t agree. What about dying your hair? What about cosmetics? Shaving your legs & face? Where do we draw the line between simply looking after yourself and extreme vanity?
Anyway, I can’t tell if I’ve completely contradicted myself… I don’t think this is an issue that is black & white – I think this allows for some grey. Whilst it does matter & is something we should ask ourselves, I don’t think it’s something that should consume a lot of our time & energy. It’s a minor issue, as far as I’m concerned.
We own a MediSpa and our motto is “Show your inner beauty on the outside”. I definitely think that inner beauty is most important – that’s what my Mom taught me and I do still very much believe it. There are many issues, however, that keep individuals from being all that they can be in life, rob them of their self-confidence and ultimately cause the world to judge them due to this flaw or problem. Thus, the “outer beauty” part of the motto. Maybe plastic surgery gives them the confidence or the ability to land that job interview or to complete that huge dream or goal. I think that Christians should pray about any type of major decision in life, whether it’s plastic surgery or just minor procedures like wrinkle reduction or hair removal (sorry for the business plug!!)
I must say, Pete, you can really get some folks “all riled up”. Keep us on our toes!
I’m Christian. I’ve had 6 pregnancies resulting in 4 live births and I’m getting a tummy tuck two weeks from tomorrow.
Woot! Woot!
i’ve had costemic surgery (whoo-hoo) , and i give to starving children. all bases covered.
With all that is said and done…Christianity and Plastic Surgery should not be linked. Relationship with yourself and God is the link. I had some plastic surgery…my insurance paid for it. I was a FREAK in some people’s eyes. I was/am comforatable with myself but it is really wonderful to not get stares from others….Christians too for that matter!
So okay…the statement “I’ve had plastic surgery, and I give to starving children, all bases covered” I don’t think that you have to do one to explain away the other…When it comes down to it, if an eye lift was 20 bucks and not actual surgery, I would probably be on it too. But again, would that actually further my relationship with Christ? I dunno…Probably not. Where is my treasure? To the people who have 17 kids and get a tummy tuck or a face lift…whatever, more power to them. Really, I don’t care. Why would I? My issue wasn’t that…it was that people were using “the kids” for a reason for or against it, when most people in the world don’t give to such causes. So I woke up this morning to come back and talk about it and Pete has on here about SCC and the heartache over loosing his daughter and the brokenness over their son and how they have to help him deal with the accident…and none of this crap even matters compared to what that family is facing. I am so foolish for even caring over such stupid stuff as whether or not I would get plastic surgery. Dang.
You are so right kristiapplesauce!I have wasted so much time thinking about this plastic surgery discussion over the past few days…and really I need to just be focusing my thoughts and prayers on real issues in this short breath of life that we have on earth.
i know i’m coming late in the game – and i know most people won’t read this. but i think you will, pete.
i know a lot of godly women who’ve gotten plastic surgery. a LOT. i’m not crazy, either, about the standard of beauty in our society. and i’m not sure if its right to go chopping on ourselves, unless done in a restorative sense, for burn victims, etc.
for me, my main concern has little to do with beauty. it has more to do with stewardship.
stewardship of finances. i can think of a NUMBER of better uses for that few thousand dollars that it takes to get pinched, tucked, implanted, etc.
yes, somebody’s already brought up starving kids in africa. and kristi has given a great perspective on that.
but, seriously, what in the WORLD is the american church doing with her money??? its all about us. all the time. and there’s definitely something wrong with that picture.
God help us.
God help me.
I think to say that plastic surgery is wrong is a little extreme. Have I had it? No. Have I thought about getting it after having 2 kids, yes. But I also wear makeup, go to the gym and probably spend too much to get my hair done, all in the name of vanity. Let’s be honest, it feels good to look good. Why is plastic surgery any different?
Mandy, I think your line of thought is important. The issue of financial stewardship is one that goes well beyond plastic surgery. I think this is one that impacts all of us.
I just have to think about the house I live in, and the car I drive, and the fly rods I own, and the computer I’m typing on right now. I’m sure we could all do a better job of using our resources to impact the lives of the less fortunate.
How is cosmetic surgery different from getting braces to straighten our teeth? I’ll bet half of us had those on during junior high. Is cosmetic surgery different than a tattoo? Or ear piercings?
Is cosmetic surgery different from meticulous attention to our wardrobe? Waxing eyebrows? Is it different from buying a sweet ride or a house in the “right” neighborhood? Spending an hour each day in the gym?
Braces are usually done when we’re in our teens(when we’ve got less of a choice)and can correct future problems. Piercings rarely cost a lot. Tattoos cost more but hardly make you look like “The Joker” from Batman if done wrong (or too much).
The rest of the things you mentioned can be inexpensive, are relatively simple and can be beneficial. If you can’t afford the house that’s a problem that’ll solve itself. Same for clothing.
The implication is cosmetic surgery for the sake of vanity is going over the line. How far can you go to stroke your own ego before it gets you in trouble?
I go with that deep thinking theolgian that said, “Just do it!”
How you like that!
I am 21 years old. My husband is overseas with the U.S. Marine Corps.
I’m considering breast implants.
I haven’t decided yet.
Here are my convictions:
MOTIVE: I feel I am a beautiful young woman. I’m not deformed, and I’m very healthy. I have small breats, yes, but so what? Still, it’s been a source of embarrasment for me. I have even been teased for it by my own mother. My husband loves me the way I am, but he recieved a breast reductuion in his teens as he struggled with his weight. He completely understands my insecurity. I want breast implants so I can look more beautiful, mainly for myself, partly for my husband, but not at all for the glory of God.
RISK: Is it worth it? I have found a very experienced doctor, and although I trust him, the risk is still there.
COST: Can I justify spending $4,700 on this surgery? In a world where that money could pay for so much more… Ghandi once said “There is enough for everyone’s need, but not for everyone’s greed.” IS this a NEED?? Not likely. This is greed, then? Sounds harsh, but isn’t it?
MAINTENENCE: These things don’t last forever. What if 10 years from now I wake up with a “flat tire” so-to-speak. Is it responsible of me to sign myself and my future children up for a likely financial hardship?
WITNESS: What will others think? And yes, I think that is important. This surgery could damage my witness, not only to the simple life that God has called me to, but perhaps even to my future daughter. “Mom, I want a nose job.” “Sweetheart, you don’t need a nose job. You’re beautiful the way you are.” “I don’t believe you. Besides, you got implants! What’s the difference?”
….ouch
With that said….
I still don’t know.
But, I know that getting implants would be the weaker route. To surrender my insecurities to God would take much more courage. Is it then kinda silly that I’m still considering it??
Maybe so… but I am.
Hmm. That’s a good question. I don’t battle many insecurities (maybe I should!) so I can easily say that no one “needs” plastic surgery unless it’s for medical reasons. I absolutely understand why people do it, though. I really do. I would say that it’s all about your heart. There are no cut and dry answers to a lot of what the world has to offer.
The Lord says ‘In whatever state we’re in, be satisfied’. The world says ‘No. You can’t be satisfied. You MUST be outwardly improved’. The Lord tells us not to focus on outward appearance. The world says ‘We MUST’. Satan asked Eve: Has God said? And he’s still asking us the same thing today. Vanity has to be one of his favourite sins, since it causes us to focus on ourselves and appearances. One of the 7 things God hates is a proud look. Do we not beef up our outward appearance so that we can put on a prouder look? Let’s be honest. If we are truly satisfied, have put off vanity, are humble and true to ourselves, would be so concerned about how we look? There is a deeper root to all of this and it is important that we search ourselves and admit what is actually behind all of this. Then, we can just be happy with ourselves. We can be comfortable and at ease with ourselves. Why and how has the Church become so dissatisfied? It makes me sad.
Somehow I am intrigued by the justification for Pastic Surgery being that many have decided to do it. It has increased 457%. Since when does human acceptance of something mitigate it’s negatve side?
I coudl also make an argumant that as Platic surgery has increased so has the dwindling of the CHurch and evangelismin teh US. Worship involved ficus and the focus of our resources. Christ asked us to totally surrender to Him. I am not so sure this paltic surgery will increase one soul in the Kingdon. I am not talking about hygene and caring for the body. I am talking about the need to alter yourself to gain acceptance. If that is what it takes them I would suggest you are in trouble spiritually.
no matter what r god u belive in if u need surgery then u should do it, i like my gf fix her face an make her boobs beeger
Are we reading the bible?, are we praying?, are we speaking to the Holy Spirit on this issues? For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. Matther 6:21 God is looking for a simple people a people who is looking out for HIM. Salvation of your soul is more important that anything you can do to your body. You came to Earth with nothing and with nothing you shall return.
I know this is an old post, but it’s a topic that gets me going on a regular basis and you mentioned it today. (BTW – Happy Blog BDay!)
I just have a few thoughts:
1. Like all things in life, it’s not about WHAT, it’s about WHY. Some people choose plastic surgery for vain reasons. Some do not. Some people do it for how their body feels, not how it looks. The problem is, that the why resides in their HEART and MIND, two places that we, as fellow humans, can’t see – only God can. And like all other choices, that leaves us in a place not to judge.
2. I think most people should concentrate on encouraging others’ self image to be healthy (starting with our own children at a very young age). This does not mean saying the outside isn’t necessary, but acknowledging that it does play a role in our society, that it can be hard when something is not perfect, but that inner beauty can overcome outer ugliness and here are some prime examples: (insert any actor/sports/icon that fits)
3. I know you mentioned men’s surgery a little bit, but truthfully, I feel sometimes that the condemnation that comes from men towards women who have procedures done is a bit chavenistic (sp is horrible – I know). Men expect perfection and then smite you down when you want to fix something about yourself. They don’t care why – they assume it’s all about attracting other men. I meet women who do the same thing, “what, you think you need to be better than me, I’m just fine!”. My question to them? What does my body have to do with you? How do my choices, regarding my body, make you involved in any way? People need to stop trying to make everything about them – maybe focus on themselves a bit more.
Some number – I lost track: I also think that if a majority of surgeries were turned around and had men at the helm, there’d be less judgement involved. I always say that if a man had a choice to lose his nose to give his child a more healthy life, and someone came back 6 years later and said, “BTW, for 5K, I can give you your nose back”, no one would think twice about it, or judge him for it.
Anywho. My two cents. For the record, I may get plastic surgery one day. I don’t have any self image issues. I just have some things that are physically uncomfortable (but livable). Once I’m married, I’ll consider getting them fixed, but not until. Until then, I am who life has made me and anyone who loves me will love me that way!
im a christian and i have never bloged before but im doing a paper for my science class on plastic surgery and i had to do a power point to go along with it (thats how i found this website) and i do agree that some people may really need plastic surgery and i under stand that, the problems that i have listed on my paper is the economy, risks and teens wanting plastic surgery. some of the options i have are to wait, get therapy and dont get it and im going with option number three, dont get it! theres an 18 year old girl who died from apulmanary embolism after having liposection surgery, i will admit, im over weight and i dont like it one bit because ive been over weight my whole life (i was a ten pound baby! so when i say my whole life, i mean my whole life!), but i dont turn to surgery to get rid of the fat, i do 4 sports a year, and i work hard on losing the weight and i have lost a couple of pounds by doing so! and ive been doing gymnastics since the fith grade and im still over weight! (i also amost always forget to eat in breakfast in the mornings which slows down the metabolism!) but ive been really good lately on trying to remember to eat breakfast, and and im starting to lose a little bit of weight! pluse, im not way to worried about my appearance because i want friends who like me for who i am and not the way i look! even if i was skinny, i want friends who like me for who i am, even when i grow up and get married, i want a husband who likes me for who i am and not what i look like! and pluse no matter what i look like, whether im fat, skinny tall or short, God love me for who i am and not what i look like and thats the important part and i dont go turning to plastic surgery so i can look like every one else. because even though i look different because im not skinny, God loves me and i am NOT turning to plastic surgery so i can be skinny! pluse some of the side effects kind of make me sick! lol!
Well, I believe that God made us in his image and likeness. I do agree with a previous poster on that. HOWEVER, God did not make me with saggy boobs that drop to my knees and stretched out muscles that I can’t even button pants over (that happens to a lot of women when they get pregnant).
Fortunately, I don’t have that problem. I have a son and I came out with the same boobs I had before and the same stomach. But, I am pregnant again. It is sin that allows us to experience the pain of childbirth but God is the one that blesses us with children. Just the same, it is because of sin we age. and, it is because of sin that many women’s bodies are so messed up after childbirth. And, I am sorry but generally it is not attractive.
Why can’t I as a Christian want to look just like I did pre pregnancy? We all have a sense of vanity to some level. And, even though it’s vain, it’s our nature. In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with investing in yourself if you know that you are not going into it because you expect it to fix your self esteem or other mental issues.
The dominant consensus is that if you “need” cosmetic surgery (e.g. reduction for back pain, birth defect, burn victim) it’s okay, but if it is “vanity” (breast enhancement, face lift) it’s wrong.
SO WHERE’S THE LINE?
If a person has rhinoplasty because of a breathing problem but gets aesthetic problems fixed as well, would that be okay?
Most think that breast reconstruction after battling breast cancer is fine. The woman lost her breast, it is not needed, but she feels different than “before”.
How is that worse than a woman who has NEVER had breasts who gets a minimal augmentation? (I define minimal as enough that she looks the same in her shirt as she did in the padded bras she’s worn for years.) Both cases are about how the woman feels about herself.
We seek beauty that cannot be found this side of heaven. Our Creator is beautiful and majestic, so it is only natural that we as humans seek such beauty. Like all good things without moderation we can find ourselves in trouble or too focused on things that don’t matter. It’s an individual choice but just remember that in the end it won’t matter! Nothing new under the sun! Agape
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